Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by **Hermit** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:34 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Hermit wrote:I believe him. I also believe that damage done by alcohol abuse can be permanent.
I would be more worried about adherence to an ideology if I was you, as liver damage doesn't affect your brain.(citation needed)

Post by **Mr.Samsa** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:35 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:It is interesting that those who have been recently banned were also unpopular and I wonder if that is just coincidence although I know
it is not. Jerome has already been declared a troll so many have convinced themselves he actually is. However if you read him you will
see that he usually posts in a non confrontational style so avoids attempts at personalising an issue unlike his detractors. Now his views
are not mine but as I said before that is no reason why he should be banned. I have no idea if he is a troll or not for only he knows that
Now it is sad how many of my fellow Rat Skeppers want him banned just because he does not think like they do. I wish they were more
open to alternative opinion. Now I cannot do much about what others think but as far as I am concerned I try to treat everyone equally
regardless of whether I agree with them or not because for me what is important are ideas not the individuals who are expressing them

Holy shit, there's no way anyone could seriously accuse Jerome of being a troll. He's one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He was also integral in the starting of RatSkep in the first place..

surreptitious57 wrote:The other james thinks that it has become a politically
correct left wing echo chamber.

Haha! I love the idea that RatSkep cares about "political correctness" or is "left wing". RatSkep (unless it's changed radically since I was last there) is trending the way of many "rational" online communities are of being "brogressive". That is, they're progressive when a situation personally benefits them (or at least benefits them to say they support it) but hold non-progressive stances whenever it gets in their way or doesn't benefit them. Like someone who claims to support gay rights but then complains about pride parades shutting down streets and displaying it in public.

Post by **BarnettNewman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:42 pm

Wrong Jerome, Mr Samsa. Surr is talking about JeromeDaGnome. Entirely different species and Troll beyond doubt.

Post by **Hermit** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:49 pm

Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.

Post by **Mr.Samsa** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:51 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:Wrong Jerome, Mr Samsa. Surr is talking about JeromeDaGnome. Entirely different species and Troll beyond doubt.

Ah that's good to hear. I remember the name but not much about him.

Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted.

I'm certain that my description applies to all Jeromes equally and would absolutely be applicable in this specific instance.

Post by **BarnettNewman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:39 pm

Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.

You clearly have never been through his wash cycle of disingenuousness then. I played mafia with him. Liked him a lot and gave him a tone of leeway as a result. He quote mines, misapprehends even when corrected and obfuscates to make his point and starts the whole thing over again pages later. Same arguments. No change.

Sorry. He's a troll

Post by **mistermack** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:10 pm

Mr.Samsa wrote:Like someone who claims to support gay rights but then complains about pride parades shutting down streets and displaying it in public.

What's wrong with that?
I would personally ban all parades that shut down streets, if they were politically motivated.
Why should people have the right to inconvenience others, just to push their own agenda?

That's how Hitler got started.

Post by **Hermit** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:29 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:
Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
You clearly have never been through his wash cycle of disingenuousness then. I played mafia with him. Liked him a lot and gave him a tone of leeway as a result. He quote mines, misapprehends even when corrected and obfuscates to make his point and starts the whole thing over again pages later. Same arguments. No change.

Sorry. He's a troll

Mafia games are about disingeniousness. Being good at playing them does not make him a troll.

Post by **BarnettNewman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:42 pm

Hermit wrote:
BarnettNewman wrote:
Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
You clearly have never been through his wash cycle of disingenuousness then. I played mafia with him. Liked him a lot and gave him a tone of leeway as a result. He quote mines, misapprehends even when corrected and obfuscates to make his point and starts the whole thing over again pages later. Same arguments. No change.

Sorry. He's a troll
Mafia games are about disingeniousness. Being good at playing them does not make him a troll.

No you misunderstand. I liked him in mafia. It's outside of mafia where he is dishonest. I think he simply doesn't like the political opinions and does everything he can to derail threads. YMMV.

Post by **Brian Peacock** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:33 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:
Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
You clearly have never been through his wash cycle of disingenuousness then. I played mafia with him. Liked him a lot and gave him a tone of leeway as a result. He quote mines, misapprehends even when corrected and obfuscates to make his point and starts the whole thing over again pages later. Same arguments. No change.

Sorry. He's a troll

So what you're saying is that you can't handle the way he expresses his views and you don't have the facts or the gumption to put up a cogent argument.

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Post by **BarnettNewman** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:30 pm

Ha. Yep. He's a one man echo chamber.

Edited cuz I don't get sarcasm sometimes.

Post by **Seth** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:55 pm

Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.

Ain't that the ever-living truth!

Post by **Seth** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:57 pm

BarnettNewman wrote:
Hermit wrote:Though JeromeDaGnome is rather inarticulate, ignorant and of a mindset I thoroughly disagree with, he is, as Mr.Samsa put it, one of the nicest, most genuine guys you'd ever meet, and he has more patience than anyone in explaining his views whilst accepting that they are fringe and not well-accepted. He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
You clearly have never been through his wash cycle of disingenuousness then. I played mafia with him. Liked him a lot and gave him a tone of leeway as a result. He quote mines, misapprehends even when corrected and obfuscates to make his point and starts the whole thing over again pages later. Same arguments. No change.

Sorry. He's a troll

Not necessarily. Just because you think he's been "corrected" doesn't mean that's the case. The individual interpretation of "correcting" someone is rather more than a bit vague and mostly manifests itself as bigoted intolerance for differences of opinion firmly held by someone whose opinions you disagree with.

Trust me, I'm an expert on that particular subject.

Post by **mistermack** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:55 pm

Seth wrote:
Hermit wrote:........ He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
Ain't that the ever-living truth!

Well, I can't see how you can complain, as you publicly style yourself a troll.

If they banned you for trolling, they would seem to have got it right.

I've never joined there, but I do wonder if I would have got a ban, if I had.

When I looked at the place, it seemed to be a bunch of people slapping each other on the back and saying how clever they all were.

I thought then that I wouldn't last long there. God knows I'm a tolerant sort, but that would have set me off.

Post by **Scott1328** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:45 pm

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote:
Hermit wrote:........ He is not a troll. The problem with Ratskep is that anyone not conforming to the mainstream of its members gets labelled as such.
Ain't that the ever-living truth!
Well, I can't see how you can complain, as you publicly style yourself a troll.

If they banned you for trolling, they would seem to have got it right.

I've never joined there, but I do wonder if I would have got a ban, if I had.

When I looked at the place, it seemed to be a bunch of people slapping each other on the back and saying how clever they all were.
I thought then that I wouldn't last long there. God knows I'm a tolerant sort, but that would have set me off.

Despite the butt-hurt exiles claims, RatSkep is not an echo-chamber. If DaveDildo, JeromeDaGnome, CitoDiPense, ScotDutchy, Ugaboo can avoid a ban, you can too.

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