Atheism plus

[Exi5tentialist]

You're not allowed to call racists racists, islamophobes islamophobes or misogynists misogynists. Funny idea of freedom.

You can call their posts racist, or Islamophobic, or whatever. That's criticism of a post.

If you call THEM names, that's abuse of a member.

I don't want the freedom to abuse members. Although I might occasionally retaliate when I'm abused. (which is also against the rules)

Do you think it is abusive to call a racist a racist? If so that is truly political correctness gone mad.

[pErvinalia]

Exactly. We should be able to call annoying arsewipes who only post on a forum to complain about that forum annoying arsewipes.

[mistermack]

You're not allowed to call racists racists, islamophobes islamophobes or misogynists misogynists. Funny idea of freedom.

You can call their posts racist, or Islamophobic, or whatever. That's criticism of a post.

If you call THEM names, that's abuse of a member.

I don't want the freedom to abuse members. Although I might occasionally retaliate when I'm abused. (which is also against the rules)

Do you think it is abusive to call a racist a racist? If so that is truly political correctness gone mad.

Yes, because it's just your opinion.
If I think you're an asshole, it's still abusive to call you an asshole.
Unless you are officially registered as life president of the asshole society.
If someone has written books extolling racist theory, it might be ok to call them a racist, on the assumption that it wouldn't be abusive.

[Exi5tentialist]

Do you think it is abusive to call a racist a racist? If so that is truly political correctness gone mad.

Yes, because it's just your opinion.
If I think you're an asshole, it's still abusive to call you an asshole.
Unless you are officially registered as life president of the asshole society.
If someone has written books extolling racist theory, it might be ok to call them a racist, on the assumption that it wouldn't be abusive.

So opinions really are banned here then.

[pErvinalia]

Your grasp of logic is truly laughable.

[mistermack]

Do you think it is abusive to call a racist a racist? If so that is truly political correctness gone mad.

Yes, because it's just your opinion.
If I think you're an asshole, it's still abusive to call you an asshole.
Unless you are officially registered as life president of the asshole society.
If someone has written books extolling racist theory, it might be ok to call them a racist, on the assumption that it wouldn't be abusive.

So opinions really are banned here then.

Abuse of members is banned.

It's an easy concept for most people.

[Exi5tentialist]

Do you think it is abusive to call a racist a racist? If so that is truly political correctness gone mad.

Yes, because it's just your opinion.
If I think you're an asshole, it's still abusive to call you an asshole.
Unless you are officially registered as life president of the asshole society.
If someone has written books extolling racist theory, it might be ok to call them a racist, on the assumption that it wouldn't be abusive.

So opinions really are banned here then.

Abuse of members is banned.

It's an easy concept for most people.

Why do you think it is abuse to call a racist a racist?

[pErvinalia]

[Exi5tentialist]

Back to Atheism Plus. They had some good points and some bad points. One of their bad points was that they too tended to avoid justifying their more illogical views when they closed down discussion, and forum members tended to cluster around the narrow opinion cliques of mods. It was never very clear actually where the power base was. At Rationalia there is, as rev identified, slightly unintentionally, a single person at the top of the hierarchy, but at atheism plus it was never very transparent whether there was a single person or a narrow clique. I suspect the latter as there was much talk of a secret forum of core members that nobody was supposed to talk about.

But at least they wouldn't hesitate to call a racist a racist. Calling a racist a racist isn't abuse as some people seem to think for some reason that they're not providing any rationale for at Rationalia. Calling a racist a racist is a decent person's duty, and banning it is an offense against free speech far more serious than anything Atheism Plus could ever muster.

[laklak]

There's nothing serious about Rationalia, thank the gods. RS is much more serious. Very seriously serious. Deep discussions and stuff. Here it's pretty much tits and puns. Or maybe buns.

[Exi5tentialist]

There's nothing serious about Rationalia, thank the gods. RS is much more serious. Very seriously serious. Deep discussions and stuff. Here it's pretty much tits and puns. Or maybe buns.

Ah but that is just your opinion, and mistermack says opinions shouldn't be allowed, for some reason.

And do not jokes and frivolity conceal an underlying truth? Many a true word spoken in jest, as they say

[pErvinalia]

There's nothing serious about Rationalia, thank the gods. RS is much more serious. Very seriously serious. Deep discussions and stuff. Here it's pretty much tits and puns. Or maybe buns.

Ah but that is just your opinion, and mistermack says opinions shouldn't be allowed..

Um, no he didn't.

[Svartalf]

opinions are allowed at the discretion of Pappa, Rachel, and the mod team

[Exi5tentialist]

There's nothing serious about Rationalia, thank the gods. RS is much more serious. Very seriously serious. Deep discussions and stuff. Here it's pretty much tits and puns. Or maybe buns.

Ah but that is just your opinion, and mistermack says opinions shouldn't be allowed..

Um, no he didn't.

He did! Above. Certain opinions, eg the opinion that someone is a racist, are not permitted. Why are other opinions allowed but that one not?

I can only think the reason you constantly side step my quite reasonable questions on this subject is that you believe in political correctness gone mad. And I thought you believe in freedom of speech!

[mistermack]

Exi, why don't you declare that you're a troll, and be done with it?

At least Seth had the front to put it on his signature.