RD.net to be re-revamped!

[JimC]

Cunts ... I recall your response to those who derided those who initially left RDF, Jim ... and how you'd stood by the dissenters along with the rest of us as we moved on ... fuck em all ... And Im ready for you saying oh, but that was different ... well it isn't. If you compare the range of people and views and the audacity of many of us that existed at RDF ... and look at who moved on with that moralistic purge .... then fast forward through a range of associated member/circumstances to now, and here you are behaving like those stodgy fucknupples back then, and this forum has fallen into line with that, so you're all good ... ? damn, must make a sentimental bloke proud.

Tough shit, a troll got all upset and left.

The weird thing is how you are using this whole thing to foment further discord.

[lordpasternack]

Was he really a troll or just idiosyncratic? I find a lot of the Politics & Current Affairs type debates quite wearisome, to be honest, and wasn't keeping track of the thread - but I know from experience that it's all too easy to dismiss people as 'trolls' as suits one's own tastes and convenience.

As Charlou alludes - many of us will at one point have been dismissed as 'trolls', or as petulant children who left forum X to go suck our thumbs and indulge our lust to talk constantly about fucking, felching, camel toes, the taste of semen and other harebrained nonsense…(And a few enraging things uttered by Richard Dawkins himself to that ends both in public and to me via PM flash through my mind as I recall this. ) Dismissing us on such grounds wasn't just fucking obnoxious - it was supremely lazy and shallow. We're generally just a little bit more complex and nuanced as individuals than that. People generally are.

And there are some people in life and on here that I don't care much for, whose opinions I don't like, and who irritate me - as well as some that I like who have particular foibles that rub me up the wrong way. Neither of these things mean that they must be 'trolls'. To me, a troll is someone who sets out to be malicious or to wind people up with a view to provoking upset. Aside from that, I try to avoid using the term to dismiss people who so happen to gall me and go against my own personal tastes and standards. It's too easy - and it's just bollocks…

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Was he really a troll or just idiosyncratic? I find a lot of the Politics & Current Affairs type debates quite wearisome, to be honest, and wasn't keeping track of the thread - but I know from experience that it's all too easy to dismiss people as 'trolls' as suits one's own tastes and convenience.

As Charlou alludes - many of us will at one point have been dismissed as 'trolls', or as petulant children who left forum X to go suck our thumbs and indulge our lust to talk constantly about fucking, felching, camel toes, the taste of semen and other harebrained nonsense…(And a few enraging things uttered by Richard Dawkins himself to that ends both in public and to me via PM flash through my mind as I recall this. ) Dismissing us on such grounds wasn't just fucking obnoxious - it was supremely lazy and shallow. We're generally just a little bit more complex and nuanced as individuals than that. People generally are.

And there are some people in life and on here that I don't care much for, whose opinions I don't like, and who irritate me - as well as some that I like who have particular foibles that rub me up the wrong way. Neither of these things mean that they must be 'trolls'. To me, a troll is someone who sets out to be malicious or to wind people up with a view to provoking upset. Aside from that, I try to avoid using the term to dismiss people who so happen to gall me and go against my own personal tastes and standards. It's too easy - and it's just bollocks…

[Robert_S]

True LP. And if he was a troll, I think he'd still be here.

I try to have a policy of reserving judgment and when I have made a judgment, to keep it open to revision.

And I know damn well I'm idiosyncratic. But that's my thing and the burden is on me to stick around a place long enough for people to get accustomed to me.

I'm not mad at him, but I'm annoyed that he left like he did. I could get over that quite easily though, but I'm not chasing anyone down to have them come back.

[lordpasternack]

Do we call Shaker's Law, or is this one made of sterner stuff?

[Ayaan]

Do we call Shaker's Law, or is this one made of sterner stuff?

He's done this same thing at other forums. Unless he creates a sock puppet, I doubt we will be seeing him again any time soon.

[lordpasternack]

Do we call Shaker's Law, or is this one made of sterner stuff?

He's done this same thing at other forums. Unless he creates a sock puppet, I doubt we will be seeing him again any time soon.

Fair enough. Aside from any issue regarding any of us bullying or driving him away - I suppose you also have to accept that you can't please all users all the time - and this one appears to have been a fussy customer…

[Ayaan]

Do we call Shaker's Law, or is this one made of sterner stuff?

He's done this same thing at other forums. Unless he creates a sock puppet, I doubt we will be seeing him again any time soon.

Fair enough. Aside from any issue regarding any of us bullying or driving him away - I suppose you also have to accept that you can't please all users all the time - and this one appears to have been a fussy customer…

True, you can't please everyone all the time. Also, not every forum is for every person - that's part of the reason there are so many. Hope he finds the right forum for him.

[leo-rcc]

RD.net is on my list of banned forums, i.e. I've banned them from my portfolio of visited websites and I do not visit them, so I don't really give a monkeys what Richard Dawkins does with his childish website. Others I've banned are AtheistForums.org, Think Atheist, Happy Atheist Forums and the London Atheists Meetup Group. My reason for banning all these Forums are around moderators using their powers inappropriately to manipulate the scope of discussions artificially.

Yes, you really hurt our feelings when you left.

I would rather he hadn't left, so fuck off with your demeaning smilie.

Make light of that ... dismiss it even ... that's what is happening ... but it's not even the fucking issue ...

Did he do anything wrong? No.

He's been ushered out because his views and approach are not popular.

Yes, he left voluntarily ... as RobertS is so fond of noting, but dont any of YOU feel responsible.

What on Earth are you talking about?

[lordpasternack]

This just in: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/6441 ... ear?page=1

So who's all excited about the changes?!





(You are entitled to ask "what changes?" )

[Audley Strange]

Hmmm I wonder who will be alienated this time and how?

[lordpasternack]

Hmmm I wonder who will be alienated this time and how?

And how craply they'll handle it, and how zealously Richard will defend those responsible…

I sent them an email, asking them in it if money would also cure their fucking incompetence and laughable pretentiousness - and if they could assure me it would, I would be all too happy to donate.

[Animavore]

As excited as a child waiting for his abusive stepfather to come in and "read a bedtime story".

[Audley Strange]

Hmmm I wonder who will be alienated this time and how?

And how craply they'll handle it, and how zealously Richard will defend those responsible…

I sent them an email, asking them in it if money would also cure their fucking incompetence and laughable pretentiousness - and if they could assure me it would, I would be all too happy to donate.

Perhaps offer to pay for a faith healer?

[lordpasternack]

As excited as a child waiting for his abusive stepfather to come in and "read a bedtime story".