Apology from Richard Dawkins (Yes Really).

[Valden]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

Who's Kevin Ronayne?

[Ayaan]

Some explanation for the deleted threads, users, and posts would have been nice. However, he seems sincere enough. Apology accepted - although like Darkchilde I doubt I will be posting on the new site.

[klr]

I don't want to nitpick, but I can see one obvious issue with the statement, namely that RD knows that the offending comments were from elsewhere after the event. So we still don't have any justification that I can see for the initial lock-down, since no evidence has been provided of any offending comments made at RD.net in the immediate aftermath of the initial announcement. I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit. He's going an awful long way as it is.

The most likely explanation for this is that they interpreted the mods plans to work to rule as the mods not going to be doing any moderation. When the 2-3 threads that were one user attacking another started to show up, they over-reacted and once they'd pulled the plug there was no reliable means of communication to rectify the situation.

I'm not privy to anything that went on between the mods and admins, but that sounds like a reasonable theory.

True, and when people here said "hey, no moderation, let's start threads over there on 'taboo' subjects", I immediately posted a warning here not to do it, since it would give a ready-made excuse for a lock-down. Which is what happened in very short order.

[klr]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

Who's Kevin Ronayne?

Me of course.

[Ilovelucy]

I don't want to nitpick, but I can see one obvious issue with the statement, namely that RD knows that the offending comments were from elsewhere after the event. So we still don't have any justification that I can see for the initial lock-down, since no evidence has been provided of any offending comments made at RD.net in the immediate aftermath of the initial announcement. I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit. He's going an awful long way as it is.

The most likely explanation for this is that they interpreted the mods plans to work to rule as the mods not going to be doing any moderation. When the 2-3 threads that were one user attacking another started to show up, they over-reacted and once they'd pulled the plug there was no reliable means of communication to rectify the situation.

I'm not privy to anything that went on between the mods and admins, but that sounds like a reasonable theory.

True, and when people here said "hey, no moderation, let's start threads over there on 'taboo' subjects", I immediately posted a warning here not to do it, since it would give a ready-made excuse for a lock-down. Which is what happened in very short order.

We also stated that we would remove anything that put Dawkins or the Foundation at risk.

[ficklefiend]

I don't want to nitpick, but I can see one obvious issue with the statement, namely that RD knows that the offending comments were from elsewhere after the event. So we still don't have any justification that I can see for the initial lock-down, since no evidence has been provided of any offending comments made at RD.net in the immediate aftermath of the initial announcement. I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit. He's going an awful long way as it is.

The most likely explanation for this is that they interpreted the mods plans to work to rule as the mods not going to be doing any moderation. When the 2-3 threads that were one user attacking another started to show up, they over-reacted and once they'd pulled the plug there was no reliable means of communication to rectify the situation.

I'm not privy to anything that went on between the mods and admins, but that sounds like a reasonable theory.

Yes, although there were no outright insults being posted before the plug was pulled, there was.. unrest. I can see why they panicked and axed it before it went on. Especially at the thought of the mods letting the forum go truly feral.

Personally, I don't really want all the nitty-gritty explained. That doesn't mean that everything is fixed now, but both sides made mistakes. I won't hold grudges.

[Valden]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

Who's Kevin Ronayne?

Me of course.

Ah kk. I don't know your forum history so..

[klr]

I don't want to nitpick, but I can see one obvious issue with the statement, namely that RD knows that the offending comments were from elsewhere after the event. So we still don't have any justification that I can see for the initial lock-down, since no evidence has been provided of any offending comments made at RD.net in the immediate aftermath of the initial announcement. I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit. He's going an awful long way as it is.

The most likely explanation for this is that they interpreted the mods plans to work to rule as the mods not going to be doing any moderation. When the 2-3 threads that were one user attacking another started to show up, they over-reacted and once they'd pulled the plug there was no reliable means of communication to rectify the situation.

I'm not privy to anything that went on between the mods and admins, but that sounds like a reasonable theory.

Yes, although there were no outright insults being posted before the plug was pulled, there was.. unrest. I can see why they panicked and axed it before it went on. Especially at the thought of the mods letting the forum go truly feral.

Personally, I don't really want all the nitty-gritty explained. That doesn't mean that everything is fixed now, but both sides made mistakes. I won't hold grudges.

There was a lot more unrest in Oct. '08. It got very heated at times, as people here who were on either "side" will testify. But it was kept under control with surprisingly little need for disciplinary action.

[NineBerry]

Respect to RD!

[normal]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

You have earned yourself a 24h break from posting. Please refrain from attacking forum members.

[laklak]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

Ah FFS mate would you give it a rest already.

[Valden]

Respect to RD!

Your avatar made me giggle.

[cowiz]

I doubt it will ever be provided, since it doesn't exist. Maybe this would just be too much to come out and admit.

So says Kevin Ronayne, the most unscrupulous and dishonest moderator in history.

You have earned yourself a 24h break from posting. Please refrain from attacking forum members.

Was that your first banning?

[Heresiarch]

Somebody please set up a poll to decide the next target for the internet hate machine.

[klr]

Respect to RD!

Why should we trust you ... Comrade Nineberry?