Announcement about RDF Part 2.

[Valden]

He didn't want members to see what an abhorrent condescending arsehole he was being.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

[orpheus]

What the fuck has happened over there?!?!

I'm just now catching up on all this. First I thought it was just the RDF servers being overloaded again and coughing up dead-end pages. Then I thought it was my computer.

I only wish it had been.

Now I see what has been going on.

This really sucks. Such a loss. And so unnecessary. I hope Richard hears what really went on.

[Bella Fortuna]

Lazar made a post there... how did he manage that??

[Jerome23]

UPDATE 1/1/10:
As far as we can tell (there may be one or two odds and ends to tidy up) the totals are as follows:

Donations not including matching: $99,569.25
Total, including matching: $164,130
If any last minute adjustments need to be made when we look in more detail, we'll announce it here.

- from the RDF website

Um. That's a lot of cash Tell you what, if you atheist chappies want to donate 1% of that sum $164 to me I promise never to post on another atheist forum, and certainly not to delete your posts or generally screw you over, betray you, treat you with contempt or act like a complete authoritarian tosser:) . Any takers? I only make about $10k a year so $164 would be a big deal to me, and i promise I will spend it on deeply non-religious purposes...

j x

[Mr.Samsa]

Lazar made a post there... how did he manage that??

That post he made is an old one but it's showing up with a new date... What is Josh up to now?

[Reverend Blair]

Jesus, that last "announcement" is the biggest pile of crap yet. Josh et al need to hire themselves a competent spinmaster. Either that or teach a goldfish to type. If they thought they were justified (and they weren't) in trying to silence the staff they'd just fired, they could have just banned them, no reason to delete the entire posting history of anybody. And if they didn't mind members talking about where to go next, why did they get rid of signatures and avatars when people started using them to put up this url?

Josh is lying through his teeth.

And what's this shite about not wanting to be a social networking site? How many times did Dawkins comment on how hard it was to get atheists together in a community? I know he said he found value in the forums at least once, as somebody around here already pointed out.

We need a clear statement from Dawkins so we know how involved he was in this, including this latest spate of lies.

[virphen]

What the fuck has happened over there?!?!

I'm just now catching up on all this. First I thought it was just the RDF servers being overloaded again and coughing up dead-end pages. Then I thought it was my computer.

I only wish it had been.

Now I see what has been going on.

This really sucks. Such a loss. And so unnecessary. I hope Richard hears what really went on.

Really pleased you could make it here.... have some .

[orpheus]

It just occurred to me that this kind of puts Richard in a tough spot (assuming, of course, that he didn't know about nor approve this).

If he stays silent, he'll have lost the respect of a lot of people. (Plus, we would never know if he was aware of this or not.) If he makes a statement, what would he say? The creationists will have a field day with this.

The best thing for him to do would be to be totally up-front and disassociate himself from the actions of his team. And publicly rebuke or fire them.

Any word from Richard?

[orpheus]

What the fuck has happened over there?!?!

I'm just now catching up on all this. First I thought it was just the RDF servers being overloaded again and coughing up dead-end pages. Then I thought it was my computer.

I only wish it had been.

Now I see what has been going on.

This really sucks. Such a loss. And so unnecessary. I hope Richard hears what really went on.

Really pleased you could make it here.... have some .

Thanks, virphen (and for the popcorn, too!). I've been a member here for a while, but I've not been very active. Somehow I suspect that will change now.

Thank you, all here, for keeping this place up and running.

-o

[SpokesGay]

Someone just posted a rebuke of Timonen - and a promise to no longer donate to Dawkins' foundation - on the comments under a front page article. Wonder how long it will last? I screen-capped it in case it's removed for being "unhelpful."

http://richarddawkins.net/articleCommen ... ge1#463425

[orpheus]

They've removed the link to the forum on the front page.

[Valden]

They've removed the link to the forum on the front page.

I still see it, and it works too.

[Bella Fortuna]

Someone just posted a rebuke of Timonen - and a promise to no longer donate to Dawkins' foundation - on the comments under a front page article. Wonder how long it will last? I screen-capped it in case it's removed for being "unhelpful."

http://richarddawkins.net/articleCommen ... ge1#463425

It was Fizzle - good on him.

[orpheus]

They've removed the link to the forum on the front page.

I still see it, and it works too.

Maybe it was just a glitch. It does seem to be there now. But I took a screen-shot of it before - here's what I saw just a few moments ago:

[Mr.Samsa]

It seems that from the latest admin announcement, staff have been blamed for the shut down of the forum because we (Mazille and I) posted the letter to the staff publicly. The contents of the letter explained what was going to happen to staff and what we shouldn't do. There was no personal or confidential information in that letter. It was exactly the same as the one to members but with the addition of telling staff that the plan to include them in developing the new area wasn't happening and that their services wouldn't be required on the new website. There were also clear directives about what staff shouldn't do. I think it should have been left up there with the other one as they do go together but perhaps they didn't want the membership to know what they'd said to staff.

The guy is a tosser.

I mean, even if we had done unspeakable illegal things which caused the shut down of the forum then why deny PMing access to the whole forum? Ban the "naughty mods" (if they had broken some sacred laws as he's asserting here) and let everyone sort out their business.

He simply wanted to treat people like shit, blame others for his incompetency and then try to prevent a mass exodus that was inevitable given the way he handled the whole thing.