So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

[Thumpalumpacus]

What if someone posted that some girls in their school should be raped on their facebook page, and then others joined in and laughed at them. This is the person's own facebook page that normally the girls don't visit. Is that person trolling the girls?

Poor analogy. Is this Skepchick's forum? No.

That's as simple as not posting, isn't it?

I mean, is he asking for his account to be locked? Or is he asking that his posts all be deleted?

There's more in stomping off. The virtual bedroom door has been well and truly slammed.

It looked to me like he wanted to memory-hole his shitposting here. I'm sure his cuntish excursions might be a little discomfiting the next time he wants to get sanctimonious about someone calling him names or something -- and clearly, he's grown accustomed, in his own little fiefdom, of controlling the message.

I don't mind being called a cockroach by a cock.

Huzzah!

People have every right to be offended [...]

And more to the point, they do not have the right to be free of offense. Their smug, self-righteous behavior is all the more nauseating considering that it's a page they cribbed from the very religious mind-set they claim to be opposing.

[Robert_S]

I did not get the impression from PZ that he wanted his posts memory holed.

I guess that it was partly that he wanted to distance himself from the forum. The request was made in the context of personal attacks on him actually. He suggested it was "A simple solution".

[Wumbologist]

I’m not scared of being labelled sexist/bigot/racist because I’m none of those things..

I'm not either, because I am
And that's the one thing that still confuses me about atheism, because equality is a Christian egalitarian belief.

On next week's episode of Interforum Drama:

"Everyone at Rationalia is racist! Everyone! You can tell because Tyrannical said he is, and Tyrannical is everyone!"

[DaveD]

He's posted at Pharyngula too.
"Everyone at Pharyngula is racist! Everyone! You can tell because Tyrannical said he is, and Tyrannical is everyone!"

[Bella Fortuna]

The Tyrannical of the majority!

[MiM]

I did not get the impression from PZ that he wanted his posts memory holed.

I guess that it was partly that he wanted to distance himself from the forum. The request was made in the context of personal attacks on him actually. He suggested it was "A simple solution".

[conspiracy theory] Ahh, so if rationalia admins stops the personal attacks on him he will have less to blog about, so he has to leave to be sure that this forum will continue to produce bloggable material [/conspiracy theory]

[MiM]

Audley: I still think you made some really stupid posts in the heat of everything, and I am not agreeing to your concept about "what we don't know cannot hurt us" at all. But I now understand better where you come from and want to apologize for the sniping against you on my part. All the best to you and the courageous Lady Strange. I would also very much welcome her here.

[Audley Strange]

Audley: I still think you made some really stupid posts in the heat of everything, and I am not agreeing to your concept about "what we don't know cannot hurt us" at all. But I now understand better where you come from and want to apology for the sniping against you on my part. All the best to you and the courageous Lady Strange. I would also very much welcome her here.

Yes MiM I deliberately made stupid posts I was mirroring the invective against us. I write satire, that is what I do for a career. Clearly I'm not that successful at it all the time. I'm not saying that "what we don't know won't hurt us" either. Again I have no issue with Skepchicks tearing us a new one they were the ones targetted (so to speak). But I do think we have to question the motivations of a man who knows that information would be hurtful, using it for political point scoring by whipping them up into a frenzy. If I was a moralist I think I may find that immoral, as it is I'm not so I find it exploitative and tasteless.

Also. You do not owe me an apology. You are entitled to your opinion and to think what you like about me nor should you feel guilty for thinking what you thought in light of the information I recently posted, it was not meant to garner sympathy but to make a point. However I thank you for it and appreciate it was it was well meant, but we're good.

I don't take things personally unless I'm personally accused of something.

[Thinking Aloud]

is how rational dialogue takes place.

[Jason]

PZ.. you used to be cool. You've changed man. *puffs a J and downs a quart of thunderbird*

[hadespussercats]

How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?

The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.

This forum can be seen by the public.

That still doesn't make it trolling.

Guys, it was trolling.

I'm not looking to hash it out any more, but let's call a spade a spade.

[hadespussercats]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Maybe, but that's not what Pappa's thread was. It was a post intended to get some laughs.

If it were just for laughs, why post in the Wilder Web? Hard to believe he'd think skepchicks would laugh.

[cogwheel]

That still doesn't make it trolling.

Guys, it was trolling.

I'm not looking to hash it out any more, but let's call a spade a spade.

"trolling" is not synonymous with "inflammatory." Most people who cry "troll" are trying to make just that conflation. It was dickish, it was blunt, it was rude, it was insensitive, it was tasteless, but it was not trolling.

Trolling USED to have a well-defined meaning, but over the last few years people have just turned it into "saying anything offensive or provocative."

Nothing personal, i'm just really sick of people throwing around labels because they happen to be popular.

[cogwheel]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Maybe, but that's not what Pappa's thread was. It was a post intended to get some laughs.

If it were just for laughs, why post in the Wilder Web? Hard to believe he'd think skepchicks would laugh.

Benefit of the doubt and the nature of his response to criticism seem to suggest a simple lapse of judgement.

[Jason]

I'm not attracted to the majority of black women. I'm not racist. So fucking what?