Badger3k wrote:More comments about here, although without any links to the actual material. How skeptical.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/aronra/2012 ... apologist/
Here's a nice bit:
After being a few rounds of laughs at the Skepchicks expense, his own forum members criticized him and he apologized for the joke’s offensiveness and “lameness”. (*edit this is the word choice in the apology not mine)However, to date I haven’t seen an apology for publicly shaming the Skepchicks, and having a laugh at their expense in the skeptic community. Whether you agree with Skepchicks or not do they deserve gender based hatred directed at them in the form of pondering raping them as a joke to shut them up?
The original ranter I quoted continues trivializing the numerous rape threats Watson got as mere trolling, and to be expected as a public personality. Is anything Watson ever said or done worthy of hundreds of threats written with the intent of shaming her with threats of violence?
Is anything that Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, Jerry Coyne, James Randi...have they done anything worthy of hundreds of "threats" as well? Or are they, as Thnderf00t says, just trolls making Watson and her clique dance to their tune? Of course, that leaves out that the dancing does generate hits and revenue, and keeps her in the limelight despite a singular lack of talent. So far, I can't think of one rape threat posted by them (and they ban people for asking for evidence) that isn't the same as Watson says "I receive emails saying I should be raped". Threat? Seriously?
Hmm... I read that article and it got me thinking. What evidence would a skepchick need to produce to satisfy an ideological opponent's view of what constitutes a "rape threat" and how easy is it for another person who does not like them or their ideology to dismiss it as mere "trolling". It becomes a tricky business then does it not? Since if one does not think they have legitimate concerns then one is likely to dismiss their claims as being part of their "agenda."
This is where I have a problem. I utterly and totally despise Radical Feminism, I think it is as stupid and pernicious as every other separatist and supremacist ideology and deserves to be torn apart like all the other pernicious ideologies that have plagued us. If they were Islamic radicals most people would be calling for moderate Muslims to oust them from their community and yet like Islam, the Women's movement, by and large, tuts a bit and attempts to see their point and defend their insane bullshit rather than call them on it being insane bullshit.
However, just because they believe insane bullshit does not mean that they do not genuinely think they are being treated maliciously. I recognise that, I recognise and made comments about such happening to female gamers by utter fucking pricks and how disheartening it is. I have empathy. I had empathy enough to consider that perhaps their complaints were muddled contexts in which they saw themselves as "Talent", so to speak, at conventions rather than punters and that they did not appreciate being treated like participants rather than professionals. Christ, my first reaction to her elevator complaint was it was a fair enough point until I thought further upon it. It's all here if anyone can be bothered to look.
So I kind of see what they
might be trying to communicate through their rhetoric, but here's the thing that article seems to miss, I don't fucking care, not because I'm a misogynist, but because giving any credence to their pernicious belief system is to reinforce it and because they do not wish to enter into debate. They have convinced themselves they are right and anything that challenges their belief enforces their belief. It becomes a self fulfilling, self destructive prophecy. Such things have disastrous consequences.
In a way it reminds me of the Branch Davidians, by believing the Government was Babylon that would bring about the apocalypse, they stored guns for their own battle of armageddon which in turn brought the shitheels of the ATF down upon them. Do you remember that? Remember how they were all holed up in there for weeks, under fire and cut off from the real world with tanks shooting flames at them, c.s gas thrown at them and loudspeakers keeping them awake with the noises of slaughtered animals and helicopter searchlights streaming in through the window. Before they all died by fire and their burned children driven over by those same tanks. How the fuck could they NOT think what they believed was coming true? The government, to them, revealed itself as the monster they always knew it was.
As I have said, Radical Feminism has got away with bullying society for too long. No one ever seriously challenged their horseshit in political or social movements before, because to do so was to be deemed Sexist, Misogynist, Un-person. People lost careers in the past for even raising the slightest concerns. They have allied themselves with the most vile fuckers imaginable in the past, including crazy fundamentalists who actively coached young children to believe they had been sexually abused by Satanic cults when it never happened. Many of the Radical Feminists were the first out claiming "we believe the children." It seems to me akin to a group sociopathy in which emotion is the only value standard, kind of like the opposite of actual misogynists like Ted Bundy had no feelings or emotions
However they are trying to insinuate themselves into a movement which prides itself in being contrary, pedantic bastards who demand evidence, not speeches and they are finding out their weaponised emotions are powerless against them, for the first time people are actively questioning their reactionary and revisionist narrative and they do not have a fucking clue how to react other than to play the victim.
Should I worry if Neo-Nazi's get hate mail? Should I get upset if Jihadi's get death threats? They're human being too, problem is sometimes human beings are actually the enemy of humanity.
"What started as a legitimate effort by the townspeople of Salem to identify, capture and kill those who did Satan's bidding quickly deteriorated into a witch hunt" Army Man
