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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:05 pm

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by lilandra » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:07 pm

Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Kristie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:08 pm

lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by lilandra » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:10 pm

Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
This forum can be seen by the public.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by cogwheel » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

lilandra wrote:
Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
This forum can be seen by the public.
That still doesn't make it trolling.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Audley Strange » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

I did not have her permission to do so until now but in light of this The Good Lady Strange who is raging about this, much more that I has finally allowed me to share this.

About four weeks prior to our meeting she dumped her boyfriend. He was the son of a Chief inspector of a police force. The boy didn't accept the relationship was ended and raped her at a party they were at, none of her friends took it seriously, because they had "been going out". About two weeks after we had been going out she told me this and told me that he was harrassing her both by phone and turning up at her door. One night he broke into her flat and sat on her bed waiting for her to come home to attempt his funtime again.

Thing was she came home with a friend and they called the police. He used his fathers position to essentially avoid any trouble. She did not let this stand, she kicked up a fuck, including writing to newspapers and having me go with her to the Constabulary where her father worked to put in an official complaint of harassment against this dickhead.

My Good Lady is not defined by this trauma. She says this... Over to you honey...

"The joke was out of order, it was an attack on a group of vulnerable young women who have defined themselves by the horrible things that happened to them, it's a shit thing to do to them. However I resent anyone who things my husband is a Rape Enabler and mysoginst. How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you?! You've no idea how that man has helped me personally and one of my other friends who could talk to no-one but him after she was raped. No one can blame any of these women for getting upset by that "joke" and they're right to take you all to task for it. That's how free speech works. However I think he's right when he says Meyrs exposing it to a group of people who are seriously emotionally damaged by sexual abuse is exploiting a position of power. Shame on the lot of you."
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
Exactly my thought. How is something "trolling" when it's done in one's own place, where the person or group mentioned isn't a member? We're not exactly a large or well-known place, or seek to be. No one would have had the least idea of that post and it would have faded into deserved oblivion had PZ not perpetuated it.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:12 pm

lilandra wrote:
Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
This forum can be seen by the public.
So? :dunno: You'd still have to seek it out somehow.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Kristie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:13 pm

lilandra wrote:
Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
This forum can be seen by the public.
Then anyone on a public forum who's ever said anything offensive to anyone is a troll. :bored:
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:15 pm

Audley Strange wrote:I did not have her permission to do so until now but in light of this The Good Lady Strange who is raging about this, much more that I has finally allowed me to share this.

About four weeks prior to our meeting she dumped her boyfriend. He was the son of a Chief inspector of a police force. The boy didn't accept the relationship was ended and raped her at a party they were at, none of her friends took it seriously, because they had "been going out". About two weeks after we had been going out she told me this and told me that he was harrassing her both by phone and turning up at her door. One night he broke into her flat and sat on her bed waiting for her to come home to attempt his funtime again.

Thing was she came home with a friend and they called the police. He used his fathers position to essentially avoid any trouble. She did not let this stand, she kicked up a fuck, including writing to newspapers and having me go with her to the Constabulary where her father worked to put in an official complaint of harassment against this dickhead.

My Good Lady is not defined by this trauma. She says this... Over to you honey...

"The joke was out of order, it was an attack on a group of vulnerable young women who have defined themselves by the horrible things that happened to them, it's a shit thing to do to them. However I resent anyone who things my husband is a Rape Enabler and mysoginst. How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you?! You've no idea how that man has helped me personally and one of my other friends who could talk to no-one but him after she was raped. No one can blame any of these women for getting upset by that "joke" and they're right to take you all to task for it. That's how free speech works. However I think he's right when he says Meyrs exposing it to a group of people who are seriously emotionally damaged by sexual abuse is exploiting a position of power. Shame on the lot of you."
Please send Lady Strange my respect and admiration. And keep some for yourself, Audley. :flowers:
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Kristie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:16 pm

Audley Strange wrote:I did not have her permission to do so until now but in light of this The Good Lady Strange who is raging about this, much more that I has finally allowed me to share this.

About four weeks prior to our meeting she dumped her boyfriend. He was the son of a Chief inspector of a police force. The boy didn't accept the relationship was ended and raped her at a party they were at, none of her friends took it seriously, because they had "been going out". About two weeks after we had been going out she told me this and told me that he was harrassing her both by phone and turning up at her door. One night he broke into her flat and sat on her bed waiting for her to come home to attempt his funtime again.

Thing was she came home with a friend and they called the police. He used his fathers position to essentially avoid any trouble. She did not let this stand, she kicked up a fuck, including writing to newspapers and having me go with her to the Constabulary where her father worked to put in an official complaint of harassment against this dickhead.

My Good Lady is not defined by this trauma. She says this... Over to you honey...

"The joke was out of order, it was an attack on a group of vulnerable young women who have defined themselves by the horrible things that happened to them, it's a shit thing to do to them. However I resent anyone who things my husband is a Rape Enabler and mysoginst. How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you?! You've no idea how that man has helped me personally and one of my other friends who could talk to no-one but him after she was raped. No one can blame any of these women for getting upset by that "joke" and they're right to take you all to task for it. That's how free speech works. However I think he's right when he says Meyrs exposing it to a group of people who are seriously emotionally damaged by sexual abuse is exploiting a position of power. Shame on the lot of you."
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by DaveD » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:17 pm

Kristie wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:I did not have her permission to do so until now but in light of this The Good Lady Strange who is raging about this, much more that I has finally allowed me to share this.

About four weeks prior to our meeting she dumped her boyfriend. He was the son of a Chief inspector of a police force. The boy didn't accept the relationship was ended and raped her at a party they were at, none of her friends took it seriously, because they had "been going out". About two weeks after we had been going out she told me this and told me that he was harrassing her both by phone and turning up at her door. One night he broke into her flat and sat on her bed waiting for her to come home to attempt his funtime again.

Thing was she came home with a friend and they called the police. He used his fathers position to essentially avoid any trouble. She did not let this stand, she kicked up a fuck, including writing to newspapers and having me go with her to the Constabulary where her father worked to put in an official complaint of harassment against this dickhead.

My Good Lady is not defined by this trauma. She says this... Over to you honey...

"The joke was out of order, it was an attack on a group of vulnerable young women who have defined themselves by the horrible things that happened to them, it's a shit thing to do to them. However I resent anyone who things my husband is a Rape Enabler and mysoginst. How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you?! You've no idea how that man has helped me personally and one of my other friends who could talk to no-one but him after she was raped. No one can blame any of these women for getting upset by that "joke" and they're right to take you all to task for it. That's how free speech works. However I think he's right when he says Meyrs exposing it to a group of people who are seriously emotionally damaged by sexual abuse is exploiting a position of power. Shame on the lot of you."
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Post by lilandra » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:Hi lilandra - quick links to the original thread and Pappa's apology for it are here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=38365

This thread was started by a member called "tantamount" who started posting here after the blog post at Pharyngula.

Edit: for clarity - some new folks have arrived here thinking this place is "Pappa's Blog". It isn't a blog, it's a forum that doesn't belong to Pappa, and anyone who is a member can start threads. :tup:
I am new. I am aware that this entire forum didn't post the joke, and all of its members didn't agree with it.

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:33 pm

lilandra wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:Hi lilandra - quick links to the original thread and Pappa's apology for it are here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=38365

This thread was started by a member called "tantamount" who started posting here after the blog post at Pharyngula.

Edit: for clarity - some new folks have arrived here thinking this place is "Pappa's Blog". It isn't a blog, it's a forum that doesn't belong to Pappa, and anyone who is a member can start threads. :tup:
I am new. I am aware that this entire forum didn't post the joke, and all of its members didn't agree with it.
(I added that for the benefit of anyone else reading, since the site has been referred to as a 'blog' by other commentators.)

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by tattuchu » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:40 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Kristie wrote:
lilandra wrote:
Pappa wrote:How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?
The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.
It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.
This forum can be seen by the public.
So? :dunno: You'd still have to seek it out somehow.
A pretty broad definition of the term "trolling." I said broad definition :awesome:
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