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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Seth » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:59 pm

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I'm not self-righteous at all. I leave that to the theists. They have self-righteous indignation down to a "t."

You need to be a little more precise in your accusations. You think "I" torture and kill people by the millions? No. Never have. Or, you think "Atheists" with a capital-A torture millions? Well, I'm not a capital A Atheist. I'm just a small-a atheist. And, Hugo Chavez is a Roman Catholic. :tea:
No he's not. He's a Marxist dictator and a murderous despot. As for your denials, lay down with pigs, get up smelling like a pig. That's what Atheists say about theists, so I'm merely returning the favor.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Ayaan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:02 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Ayaan wrote:They've only been at it for a few days. Give them time. They seem pretty damn determined to turn this into a movement. Although, most of the comments I've seen from atheists outside the FTB orbit have been along the lines of WTF?!
How much of the conference scene does the FtB/Skepchick crowd make up? Apart from PZ and Rebecca, I'm not aware of any big name speakers.
There's Greta Christina, Richard Carrier, and Matt Dillahunty who have fairly strong followings and get a lot of invites to speak. There are probably others, but those are the ones I though of off the top of my head.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:05 pm

Ayaan wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Ayaan wrote:They've only been at it for a few days. Give them time. They seem pretty damn determined to turn this into a movement. Although, most of the comments I've seen from atheists outside the FTB orbit have been along the lines of WTF?!
How much of the conference scene does the FtB/Skepchick crowd make up? Apart from PZ and Rebecca, I'm not aware of any big name speakers.
There's Greta Christina, Richard Carrier, and Matt Dillahunty who have fairly strong followings and get a lot of invites to speak. There are probably others, but those are the ones I though of off the top of my head.
What percentage would you say? More or less than half?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by colubridae » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:06 pm

Have you heard the good news? Atheism+ = Evangelatheism. :rimshot:
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:10 pm

Robert_S wrote:Atheists People are a fun lot as long as there's a Pub nearby, maybe a Lounge as well. It's when too many of us get On A Mission at one time that all hell breaks loose and we kill off the ideologically incorrect, commit genocides, and .... create threads a mile long about the nature of free will and the role of emergence in the creation of consciousness. :o
Just pointing out that such things are not limited to any specific subset of shaved monkeys. :tea:
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Ayaan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:21 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Ayaan wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Ayaan wrote:They've only been at it for a few days. Give them time. They seem pretty damn determined to turn this into a movement. Although, most of the comments I've seen from atheists outside the FTB orbit have been along the lines of WTF?!
How much of the conference scene does the FtB/Skepchick crowd make up? Apart from PZ and Rebecca, I'm not aware of any big name speakers.
There's Greta Christina, Richard Carrier, and Matt Dillahunty who have fairly strong followings and get a lot of invites to speak. There are probably others, but those are the ones I though of off the top of my head.
What percentage would you say? More or less than half?
Difficult for me to say. I was never a regular reader of any of the Freethought Blogs and the only conference I've been to in the past few years has been Skepticon.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:24 pm

Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
I'm not self-righteous at all. I leave that to the theists. They have self-righteous indignation down to a "t."

You need to be a little more precise in your accusations. You think "I" torture and kill people by the millions? No. Never have. Or, you think "Atheists" with a capital-A torture millions? Well, I'm not a capital A Atheist. I'm just a small-a atheist. And, Hugo Chavez is a Roman Catholic. :tea:
No he's not. He's a Marxist dictator and a murderous despot. As for your denials, lay down with pigs, get up smelling like a pig. That's what Atheists say about theists, so I'm merely returning the favor.
You always act like theists are "returning the favor" as if they're just now saying shit about atheists. Look, theists have been dishing it out for thousands of years, and far worse than they are getting it now. Atheists are the ones, finally, returning the favor. And, most of us atheists don't even return the favor. Most of us are fairly nice.

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Seth » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:28 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
I'm not self-righteous at all. I leave that to the theists. They have self-righteous indignation down to a "t."

You need to be a little more precise in your accusations. You think "I" torture and kill people by the millions? No. Never have. Or, you think "Atheists" with a capital-A torture millions? Well, I'm not a capital A Atheist. I'm just a small-a atheist. And, Hugo Chavez is a Roman Catholic. :tea:
No he's not. He's a Marxist dictator and a murderous despot. As for your denials, lay down with pigs, get up smelling like a pig. That's what Atheists say about theists, so I'm merely returning the favor.
You always act like theists are "returning the favor" as if they're just now saying shit about atheists. Look, theists have been dishing it out for thousands of years, and far worse than they are getting it now. Atheists are the ones, finally, returning the favor. And, most of us atheists don't even return the favor. Most of us are fairly nice.
It's my experience that most Atheists are intolerable bores and intolerant arrogant asses who can never, ever manage to give their atheistic agenda a rest. Worse than most religious people by far in my experience, with the exception of some few Christian and Muslim religious zealots.

Not a universal truth, but by and large true in my personal experience.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:41 pm

Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Seth wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
I'm not self-righteous at all. I leave that to the theists. They have self-righteous indignation down to a "t."

You need to be a little more precise in your accusations. You think "I" torture and kill people by the millions? No. Never have. Or, you think "Atheists" with a capital-A torture millions? Well, I'm not a capital A Atheist. I'm just a small-a atheist. And, Hugo Chavez is a Roman Catholic. :tea:
No he's not. He's a Marxist dictator and a murderous despot. As for your denials, lay down with pigs, get up smelling like a pig. That's what Atheists say about theists, so I'm merely returning the favor.
You always act like theists are "returning the favor" as if they're just now saying shit about atheists. Look, theists have been dishing it out for thousands of years, and far worse than they are getting it now. Atheists are the ones, finally, returning the favor. And, most of us atheists don't even return the favor. Most of us are fairly nice.
It's my experience that most Atheists are intolerable bores and intolerant arrogant asses who can never, ever manage to give their atheistic agenda a rest. Worse than most religious people by far in my experience, with the exception of some few Christian and Muslim religious zealots.

Not a universal truth, but by and large true in my personal experience.
I know a few Libertarians who won't give it a rest as well.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Azathoth » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:43 pm

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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:52 pm

Seth wrote:
It's my experience that most Atheists are intolerable bores and intolerant arrogant asses who can never, ever manage to give their atheistic agenda a rest. Worse than most religious people by far in my experience, with the exception of some few Christian and Muslim religious zealots.

Not a universal truth, but by and large true in my personal experience.
Hardly a surprise considering the time you spend on certain atheist fora. ;)
For what it's worth, I get tired of hearing the atheist agenda bouncing about too, as are a good number of other atheists, I imagine.
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Re: The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

Post by Trinity » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:05 pm

Can we have pics please of the good the bad and the ugly?
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Post by Azathoth » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:06 pm

Trinity wrote:Can we have pics please of the good the bad and the ugly?
Is your google broken? :razzle:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:18 pm

My vote for "the ugly" --- Image

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Post by Wandering Through » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:23 pm

Azathoth wrote:
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I see what you did there, and I like it!

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