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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by JimC » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:17 pm

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Ilovelucy wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, Dawkins has the social intelligence of a sponge. How often has he surrounded himself with the wrong people? I also can't wait to hear PZ Myers on the issue too, there's plenty of humble pie to go around.
I've been thinking too about what PZ might have to say. Of course, he could decide to ignore it, on the (justifiable) grounds that he doesn't want to comment on a matter that's currently going through the legal system.

A pity. :coffee:
He's a member here, maybe he will swing by to tell us we are being silly.
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We have plenty of regular posters perfectly ready to do that!

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:17 pm

Ilovelucy wrote:I've just been told off by a mod on ratskep for being horrible about Josh.
which one? I must say I'm surprised anybody forced to operate from a new forum after the meltdown can still be so toadyish to that worm
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by klr » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:18 pm

Ilovelucy wrote:I've just been told off by a mod on ratskep for being horrible about Josh.
Meh. It's a free country online world. If people are going to be nasty to little Joshy, they won't need any encouragement or assistance about how to do it. It's their call.

After all, the last time, he followed people here (after he and/or Chalkers tried to stop them leaving in the first place) and then twisted around what was said to suit his own ends. I didn't think he could fall any lower in my estimation, but ...
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by Feck » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:19 pm

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Ilovelucy wrote:I've just been told off by a mod on ratskep for being horrible about Josh.
which one? I must say I'm surprised anybody forced to operate from a new forum after the meltdown can still be so toadyish to that worm
Maybe he is a member there :lol:
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Post by JimC » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:19 pm

Ilovelucy wrote:I've just been told off by a mod on ratskep for being horrible about Josh.
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You wouldn't have been saying it right if you weren't told off in MrsGrundyville......
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Post by Ilovelucy » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:21 pm

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Ilovelucy wrote:I've just been told off by a mod on ratskep for being horrible about Josh.
Meh. It's a free country online world. If people are going to be nasty to little Joshy, they won't need any encouragement or assistance about how to do it. It's their call.

After all, the last time, he followed people here (after he and/or Chalkers tried to stop them leaving in the first place) and then twisted around what was said to suit his own ends. I didn't think he could fall any lower in my estimation, but ...
Well, I'll just keep on venting over here. I've not really been that busy there, so I'm not up on their current prohibitions. Keep venting my spleen where it's welcome! :td:
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by Feck » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:25 pm

I do feel sorry for Richard (no honestly :ddpan: ) He must be feeling terrible.And the fundies are going to be all over this :fp:
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Post by ficklefiend » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:27 pm

AHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA

Sorry, I realise you guys are probably over the initial reaction stage so many internet years after the news, but I am not.

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Post by Ilovelucy » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:29 pm

Feck wrote:I do feel sorry for Richard (no honestly :ddpan: ) He must be feeling terrible.And the fundies are going to be all over this :fp:
I wonder if some of that terrible feeling revolves around the idea that he shafted thousands of admirers and followers for a scumbag? Nah, I wouldn't give a shit about them either if I lost that much money!
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:32 pm

Feck wrote:I do feel sorry for Richard (no honestly :ddpan: ) He must be feeling terrible.And the fundies are going to be all over this :fp:
I have some sympathy for him too, but not very much I'm sorry to say. He gave a great deal of money, trust and power to someone who didn't deserve it, passing over people who could have done much better at a more reasonable rate.
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by klr » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:34 pm

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Feck wrote:I do feel sorry for Richard (no honestly :ddpan: ) He must be feeling terrible.And the fundies are going to be all over this :fp:
I have some sympathy for him too, but not very much I'm sorry to say. He gave a great deal of money, trust and power to someone who didn't deserve it, passing over people who could have done much better at a more reasonable rate.
It appears to be the old issues of proper controls, accountability and lines or reporting that we saw with the forum. I guess they were much, much greater than any of us ever imagined. I guess it's just not RD's forté.
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Post by Ilovelucy » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:58 pm

"When Dawkins discovered the embezzlement, he says, Timonen suddenly claimed he owned the intellectual rights to the store's website, the Foundation logo and the DVDs that he sold through the store. "

I just keep reading that bit in disbelief. What a scumbag.

"In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."" I keep on reading over this bit and giggling.
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by Feck » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:02 pm

I can't find a copy of RD's 'Outrage' letter ..I ??
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Feck wrote:I can't find a copy of RD's 'Outrage' letter ..I ??
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Re: Dawkins sues Timonen

Post by J.A.Poisson » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:10 pm

Ilovelucy wrote: "In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."" I keep on reading over this bit and giggling.
I dunno, he may be the worlds best known atheist for all i know

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