Anti-Vaxxers

Do they really exist?

No
0
No votes
Cheese
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10%
Yes, but they should be shot.
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40%
Then they should be bacon
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20%
I think it is perfectly reasonable to believe that Bill Gates wants to put Nanobot microchips into everybody.
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30%
 
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by JimC » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:43 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:29 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:12 pm
NineBerry wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:04 pm
I wouldn't say that it is "indicent haste" that a technology that has been in active development for over 20 years, has been trialed in clinical trials for more than 10 years and now has a concrete implementation that was tested on 200,000 people is used to combat a virus that hits a totally naive (having no immunity whatsoever) population with an IFR of about 0.8 in the the civilized West and a potential for severe long time damage on 10% of the infected people.
Entschuldigen sie? How is that possible when talking about a germ that was all but unknown a year ago?
Because science and technology rule. We don't do vaccinations the classical way: Multiply the virus, add some poison to destroy the viral structure, then inject that into the body together with some more poison to trigger an reaction. That's crude. That's cave man technology. We have technological platforms that allow us to design general-purpose vaccines that can be retrofitted to vaccinate against most types of viruses and will even be able to vaccinate against certain types of cancer in the future.

You only need to know the construction plan of the virus and you can use that information to select one small part of a protein of the virus with the right condition, calculate the genetic code that produces that small part and then embed that into the existing technology. We have powerful computers and computer models that can simulate within hours if there's any potential problems.

Also, one condition speeding up the development of this virus rapidly:

* A disease where no vaccine is already available (So one has to be created)
* A disease that is wide-spread in society so that phase 3 studies can conclude quickly. These studies require people to get infected in order to prove the efficacy of the vaccine. This takes longer if there are very few people actually suffering from the disease.
* Rich people in danger of contracting the disease and therefore willing to pay for it.
Certainly an additional motivating factor...
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by laklak » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:41 pm

I'll let a few million other old fucks be the guinea pigs. Go on y'all, take one for the team!
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Seabass » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:50 pm

I'd take it right now if I had access to it. I am SOOOOOOO ready to put this damn plague behind me...
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:05 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:12 pm
NineBerry wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:29 pm
I don't know who hijacked Galaxian's account, butt it seems Galaxian has hijacked Strontium Dog's account.
Strontium Dog wrote:
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this cold that's going round.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by JimC » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:14 pm

Yeah, that throwaway line calling coronavirus "just a cold" is reminiscent of Trump et al...
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:13 am

Typhoid is a bacterial disease. It is in fact prevented by clean water.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by rainbow » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:59 am

Strontium Dog wrote:
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What excess deaths shows is that people are dying from other stuff, because our health service has basically given up on treating patients unless they have this cold that's going round.
:prof: The data don't support your conclusion. :prof:

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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:06 am

Conservatives are a funny lot aren't they. I mean, comparing Covid-19 to a cold when it's around 50x more deadly than the seasonal flu is a bit like comparing being hit by a truck at 50mph to stubbing your toe on the sofa.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by rainbow » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:13 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:06 am
Conservatives are a funny lot aren't they. I mean, comparing Covid-19 to a cold when it's around 50x more deadly than the seasonal flu is a bit like comparing being hit by a truck at 50mph to stubbing your toe on the sofa.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Svartalf » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:25 am

News, the Pfizer Vaxx has already caused 2 cases of major allergic reaction.
anti vaxxers creaming their panties in glee.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:00 am

Svartalf wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:25 am
News, the Pfizer Vaxx has already caused 2 cases of major allergic reaction.
anti vaxxers creaming their panties in glee.
Did you skip reading this post?
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:14 pm

JimC wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:14 pm
Yeah, that throwaway line calling coronavirus "just a cold" is reminiscent of Trump et al...
I suggest you re-read my posts, because the phrase "just a cold" does not feature in any of them. It's your invention.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:20 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:06 am
Conservatives are a funny lot aren't they. I mean, comparing Covid-19 to a cold when it's around 50x more deadly than the seasonal flu is a bit like comparing being hit by a truck at 50mph to stubbing your toe on the sofa.
1) I'm not a conservative. At all.
2) Covid is approximately three times more deadly than seasonal flu. (IFR ~0.3% vs 0.1% for flu).
3) Learn more history about what happened when the coronaviruses that cause around one-sixth of colds first appeared in human populations.
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Re: Anti-Vaxxers

Post by NineBerry » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:21 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:00 pm
this cold that's going round.

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