Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Point?

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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by Callan » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:04 pm

devogue wrote:Listen to recordings of Chaucer's Knight's Tale with the original pronunciation.

Knight is pronounced Kinniggit (a la Monty Python).
But still with just the one syllable, it should be noted. One should - ahem - swallow the end of the word somewhat, and lay the stress on the "Kn-".
Otherwise one will fuck the bejaysus out of the iambic pentameter.

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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by stripes4 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:07 pm

Callan wrote:
devogue wrote:Listen to recordings of Chaucer's Knight's Tale with the original pronunciation.

Knight is pronounced Kinniggit (a la Monty Python).
But still with just the one syllable, it should be noted. One should - ahem - swallow the end of the word somewhat, and lay the stress on the "Kn-".
Otherwise one will fuck the bejaysus out of the iambic pentameter.
That iambic pentameter fucking loves it, the dirty bastard. :yes:
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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by JOZeldenrust » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:55 pm

stripes4 wrote:As a graduate of English, specialising in Lexicography, I would like to support Devogay in his explanation. Thankyou
Just in case you're responding to me, I'm not disputing Devogay's explanation. I just meant to explain how the silent consonants survived in the English spelling, even when they' been lost in the pronounciation. Other languages often have systems to match the spelling to the pronounciation once every couple of years. English doesn't, so you're stuck with spelling that reflects a much earlier pronounciation.

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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by Lozzer » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:43 pm

stripes4 wrote:As a graduate of English, specialising in Lexicography, I would like to support Devogay in his explanation. Thankyou
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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by Berthold » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:30 pm

I find it funny that the p in words such as pneumonia and psychology is omitted. Only in English, therefore I suppose that this is not a trait of Greek!

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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:36 pm

I'm actually sad that, in the US at least, silent letters are under attack. I'd rather go to one of the boroughs, tonight, than one of the boros, tonite.

I like the etymological archaeology of silent letters.
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Post by Tigger » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:37 pm

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Post by Eriku » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:41 pm

Berthold wrote:I find it funny that the p in words such as pneumonia and psychology is omitted. Only in English, therefore I suppose that this is not a trait of Greek!
Isn't pronounced in the Scando languages either, as far as I know... come to think of it, same would go for German, no?

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Post by Eriku » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:43 pm

Berthold wrote:I find it funny that the p in words such as pneumonia and psychology is omitted. Only in English, therefore I suppose that this is not a trait of Greek!
Isn't pronounced in the Scando languages either, as far as I know... come to think of it, same would go for German, no?

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Post by Berthold » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:50 pm

Eriku wrote:
Berthold wrote:I find it funny that the p in words such as pneumonia and psychology is omitted. Only in English, therefore I suppose that this is not a trait of Greek!
Isn't pronounced in the Scando languages either, as far as I know... come to think of it, same would go for German, no?
Oh no, that's why I find it funny!

In Austria, we speak German, although some northern Germans have doubts about this. :mrgreen:

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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:16 pm

hadespussercats wrote:I'm actually sad that, in the US at least, silent letters are under attack. I'd rather go to one of the boroughs, tonight, than one of the boros, tonite.

I like the etymological archaeology of silent letters.
But surely that's not a 'silent letter' issue? I mean "boroughs" is not even pronounced "boros". Not on this side of the Atlantic anyway. :dunno:
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Re: Silent Letters In The English Language - What's The Poin

Post by DRSB » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:20 pm

My English is not up to such subtle games. Wait, is the "b" in "subtle" silent?

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