Cormac wrote:Cali - is there a limit to your knowledge and expertise?
try him on Eastenders...Motorcycles
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try him on Eastenders...A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
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There is no such thing as knowledge about Eastenders. There is "Anti-knowledge" related to Eastenders. Unfortunately, when it meets actual knowledge, it annihilates both, leaving a person bereft of knowledge and in need of a complete reinstall.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Cormac wrote:Cali - is there a limit to your knowledge and expertise?
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Insurance Institute of Highway Safety. lmgtfy.comFBM wrote:Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know of anyone who's done any work on that. That's why I fall back on direct experience. Not much choice.The_Metatron wrote:I'd think you could analyze crashes, if you could get data on aftermarket exhausts on the crashed bikes. If the claim of loud pipes save lives is true, bikes with loud exhausts should be underrepresented in crashes. Getting to that data is the trick.
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I just posted a letter to them, asking if their crash data contains information on motorcycle installed equipments. If it does, if I can have access to search for this effect.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Insurance Institute of Highway Safety. lmgtfy.comFBM wrote:Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know of anyone who's done any work on that. That's why I fall back on direct experience. Not much choice.The_Metatron wrote:I'd think you could analyze crashes, if you could get data on aftermarket exhausts on the crashed bikes. If the claim of loud pipes save lives is true, bikes with loud exhausts should be underrepresented in crashes. Getting to that data is the trick.
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They're usually willing to give researchers access to their data, the whole point is to find any and all ways to make motoring safer, and thus less expensive to insure. The IIHS first came up with the idea of "crumple zones" to soften front and rear impacts, and they helped pioneer side air bags.The_Metatron wrote:I just posted a letter to them, asking if their crash data contains information on motorcycle installed equipments. If it does, if I can have access to search for this effect.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Insurance Institute of Highway Safety. lmgtfy.comFBM wrote:Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't know of anyone who's done any work on that. That's why I fall back on direct experience. Not much choice.The_Metatron wrote:I'd think you could analyze crashes, if you could get data on aftermarket exhausts on the crashed bikes. If the claim of loud pipes save lives is true, bikes with loud exhausts should be underrepresented in crashes. Getting to that data is the trick.
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The bumper sticker should read, "Loud pipes save lives unless you're driving like a fucking idiot in the first place."
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I thought that was the only way to drive?FBM wrote:The bumper sticker should read, "Loud pipes save lives unless you're driving like a fucking idiot in the first place."
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No shit.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I thought that was the only way to drive?FBM wrote:The bumper sticker should read, "Loud pipes save lives unless you're driving like a fucking idiot in the first place."
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It will be interesting to see if the data exists and if something comes from it.
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It would be interesting. It would be more informative if the data distinguished between which driver was at fault, the cager or the motorcyclist. Motorcyclists tend, in general, to drive like idiots.
But, wait, so do cage-drivers.
Must work further on this angle...
OK, so we need to distinguish between loud motorcycle drivers who were driving sanely and those who were driving stoopidly, as well as to distinguish between quiet motorcylists who were driving either sanely or stoopidly, compare both sets of data, factor in weather, road conditions, etc etc.
Too much work for a simpleton like me. I just figure that ambulances and police cars include loud sirens for a reason: it helps other drivers be aware of their presence and, thus, avoid collisions with them.
But, wait, so do cage-drivers.
Must work further on this angle...
OK, so we need to distinguish between loud motorcycle drivers who were driving sanely and those who were driving stoopidly, as well as to distinguish between quiet motorcylists who were driving either sanely or stoopidly, compare both sets of data, factor in weather, road conditions, etc etc.
Too much work for a simpleton like me. I just figure that ambulances and police cars include loud sirens for a reason: it helps other drivers be aware of their presence and, thus, avoid collisions with them.
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No distinction required. If I'm not going to bother with it for the OEM motorcycles involved in deaths, there is no need to consider it for the motorcycles with loud pipes that are involved in deaths, either.
If I can get to the data, anyway.
If I can get to the data, anyway.
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