Free will?

[Rum]

[MissingNo.]

*turns to page 86*

[floppit]

I think you'll like this:
http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=273

just for the record - I'm a materialist rather than dualist, you?

[Animavore]

This is a great book relating to this issue.

[Surendra Darathy]

I think you'll like this:
http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=273

just for the record - I'm a materialist rather than dualist, you?

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

[floppit]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

[Rum]

I think you'll like this:
http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=273

just for the record - I'm a materialist rather than dualist, you?

I think it is a non-question (generally - not dismissing you Flop). There is no 'dual' to be dualist about in my book.

The original issue arose from the idea that human beings might have a spark of the divine in them. Buddhists usually believe that we are all 'one' and that separation from the universal is 'dualist' and incorrect. Christianity tends (though there have been stands that don't agree..and they were heavily persecuted way back) who believe that this 'spark' is a separate thing - a 'soul' which has nothing to do with a unified whole - a dualisic view.

All complete gobbledegook and nonsense of course. I used to get involved in discussions about this sort of rubbish in years gone by.

Of course you may be talking about something totally different.

[Surendra Darathy]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

I don't believe in the human contribution to anything. If you're talking about the human contribution to human extinction, well, overpopulation comes and goes. If it goes far enough, extinction is the result.

Believing in stuff is sort of my basis for not caring. How can you expect a species that "believes in stuff" to matter in the long run? It's an evolutionary dead end.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

I don't believe in the human contribution to anything. If you're talking about the human contribution to human extinction, well, overpopulation comes and goes. If it goes far enough, extinction is the result.

Nuclear weapons.

[Surendra Darathy]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

I don't believe in the human contribution to anything. If you're talking about the human contribution to human extinction, well, overpopulation comes and goes. If it goes far enough, extinction is the result.

Nuclear weapons.

So what? A species that can invent its own suicide pill? Who's going to be around to write the obituary? The fossil record, that's who!

[Rum]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

I don't believe in the human contribution to anything. If you're talking about the human contribution to human extinction, well, overpopulation comes and goes. If it goes far enough, extinction is the result.

Believing in stuff is sort of my basis for not caring. How can you expect a species that "believes in stuff" to matter in the long run? It's an evolutionary dead end.

An issue which crops up here regularly and which our cowardly politicians seem unable to even get the merest of grip upon. The too many people issue may well end up killing us all.

[Surendra Darathy]

The too many people issue may well end up killing us all.

Don't weep. This will be a good thing in the long run!

What? No one to remember us? Quelle domage!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That's fine, as long as you recognise that nothing you do or say matters in the long run.

You don't believe in the human contributions to climate change then? After all, wasn't the weather one of the bastions of what humans could not effect?

I don't believe in the human contribution to anything. If you're talking about the human contribution to human extinction, well, overpopulation comes and goes. If it goes far enough, extinction is the result.

Nuclear weapons.

So what? A species that can invent its own suicide pill? Who's going to be around to write the obituary? The fossil record, that's who!

Sorry, but we can kill 99.9999% of life on Earth if we go nuts with those things. That's a "contribution" whether you like it or not.

[Surendra Darathy]

Sorry, but we can kill 99.9999% of life on Earth if we go nuts with those things. That's a "contribution" whether you like it or not.

Look at my avatar. What did you expect me to say? Who the fuck is watching the show?

I'm not vivocentric. Lichens eat rocks. Who will stand up for the rocks?

Rocks erode. Abolish the Second Law of Thermodynamics!

[Rum]

The too many people issue may well end up killing us all.

Don't weep. This will be a good thing in the long run!

What? No one to remember us? Quelle domage!

Whether we live, as a race, a few more thousand or more years, or die in the next 100 or so years is a matter of total indifference to the universe at large. This, as an atheist, is very liberating in one way, but it is also supremely sad. Our moment will come and either sooner or perhaps later, will have gone and none of it will have mattered. And nobody will remain to remember.

You can see why religion has had its adherents.