Murder.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I think it "interesting" to consider the following:

Murdered for their beliefs:

Martin Luther King, Jr.
Robert Kennedy.
Ghandi.

Not murdered for their beliefs:

Adolf Hitler.
Joseph Stalin.
Pol Pot.

[War Arrow]

Benito Mussolini?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Benito Mussolini?

True. There are obvious cases on the obverse for each. Mengele was hanged, as was Saddam. And Darwin lived to be a ripe old age.

I would say, however, that murder is more often the weapon of choice against "liberal" thought.

[maiforpeace]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

[maiforpeace]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

Indeed. My mother worked for General Hans Speidel for a number of years after the war. Apparently he went to his grave, never betraying his involvement in his assassination attempt against Hitler.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

Indeed. My mother worked for General Hans Speidel for a number of years after the war. Apparently he went to his grave, never betraying his involvement in his assassination attempt against Hitler.

Ach, Operation Valkyrie.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

It stands to reason that fascistic dictators that are despised by a sizable proportion of their country's population are going to take great care when it comes to personal security (often to the extent of preemptive elimination of assassination risks) due to there being a lot more people that are likely to want them dead and prepared to take great risks to facilitate that state of affairs.

A liberal, populist leader, on the other hand, is likely to consider that the benefits of personal contact with their people outweighs a far lesser risk of being shot at. They therefore would put themselves into situations where a determined assassin could get a shot off far more than the Hitlers and Stalins of this world.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

It stands to reason that fascistic dictators that are despised by a sizable proportion of their country's population are going to take great care when it comes to personal security (often to the extent of preemptive elimination of assassination risks) due to there being a lot more people that are likely to want them dead and prepared to take great risks to facilitate that state of affairs.

A liberal, populist leader, on the other hand, is likely to consider that the benefits of personal contact with their people outweighs a far lesser risk of being shot at. They therefore would put themselves into situations where a determined assassin could get a shot off far more than the Hitlers and Stalins of this world.

And all three of the people on my "Murdered" list were "campaigning" in one fashion or another.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

It stands to reason that fascistic dictators that are despised by a sizable proportion of their country's population are going to take great care when it comes to personal security (often to the extent of preemptive elimination of assassination risks) due to there being a lot more people that are likely to want them dead and prepared to take great risks to facilitate that state of affairs.

A liberal, populist leader, on the other hand, is likely to consider that the benefits of personal contact with their people outweighs a far lesser risk of being shot at. They therefore would put themselves into situations where a determined assassin could get a shot off far more than the Hitlers and Stalins of this world.

And all three of the people on my "Murdered" list were "campaigning" in one fashion or another.

They were all killed while out 'pressing the flesh' in one form or another, with minimal, unobtrusive security. If, in an alternate universe, Hitler had driven through Daley Plaza, nobody would have been allowed within a mile of the place without a search for weapons (and they would all have been hand-picked nazi supporters in any case) and there would have been as many security people as spectators. Also, any buildings overlooking the route (things like... oh, I don't know.... book depositories) would have been thoroughly searched and locked up before Adolf was even in Texas!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

It stands to reason that fascistic dictators that are despised by a sizable proportion of their country's population are going to take great care when it comes to personal security (often to the extent of preemptive elimination of assassination risks) due to there being a lot more people that are likely to want them dead and prepared to take great risks to facilitate that state of affairs.

A liberal, populist leader, on the other hand, is likely to consider that the benefits of personal contact with their people outweighs a far lesser risk of being shot at. They therefore would put themselves into situations where a determined assassin could get a shot off far more than the Hitlers and Stalins of this world.

And all three of the people on my "Murdered" list were "campaigning" in one fashion or another.

They were all killed while out 'pressing the flesh' in one form or another, with minimal, unobtrusive security. If, in an alternate universe, Hitler had driven through Daley Plaza, nobody would have been allowed within a mile of the place without a search for weapons (and they would all have been hand-picked nazi supporters in any case) and there would have been as many security people as spectators. Also, any buildings overlooking the route (things like... oh, I don't know.... book depositories) would have been thoroughly searched and locked up before Adolf was even in Texas!

The Hitler Bodyguard was certainly well staffed. They also got the best equipment. When wargaming the Battle of the Bulge the German units got an attack factor of "3", the Americans got a "4", and the Hitler Bodyguard got a "12".

And it's "Dealey", not Daly. Daly was the shogun of Chicago.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

The Hitler Bodyguard was certainly well staffed. They also got the best equipment. When wargaming the Battle of the Bulge the German units got an attack factor of "3", the Americans got a "4", and the Hitler Bodyguard got a "12".

And it's "Dealey", not Daly. Daly was the shogun of Chicago.

Shameful typo is shameful.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Hitler Bodyguard was certainly well staffed. They also got the best equipment. When wargaming the Battle of the Bulge the German units got an attack factor of "3", the Americans got a "4", and the Hitler Bodyguard got a "12".

And it's "Dealey", not Daly. Daly was the shogun of Chicago.

Shameful typo is shameful.

That's okay, just jump in the limo and I'll take on you on a tour of the Plaza.

[Don't Panic]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

5 of those were me, the prissy Austrian bitch owed me money, tried to pay me with ReichMarks,

I was like, "Bitch, I want a currency I can use for something other than wiping my ass, now give me my money."

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Wouldn't assassination attempts be a better way to make the comparison?

Hitler had over 40 verifiable attempts made on him during WWII.

5 of those were me, the prissy Austrian bitch owed me money, tried to pay me with ReichMarks,

I was like, "Bitch, I want a currency I can use for something other than wiping my ass, now give me my money."

I hope you bitch-slapped the pussy!