Millennials have no hope for future

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Rum » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:04 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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There were two young fellows behind me on the bus tonight. They were talking about their time at university - they'd just discovered they were at the same university at the same time. One had a physics degree, the other a degree in Medieval Spanish. It was 1145pm and they'd just finished their shifts at a nearby supermarket. Of course millennials have difficulty seeing a future when bright young things like these two are stuck in a low-wage economy they'll probably never escape from.
I’m not saying it isn’t tough for young ‘uns - my daughter has struggled like mad to swim against the low wage tide. Just a point r.e. the above though. In England they are screaming out for physics graduates for teaching. There are even incentive golden handshakes on offer - and academies don’t even need to employ people with teaching qualifcations. Maybe different in Scotland of course.

The medieval Spanish guy may as well go shoot himself now and get it over with.
> 60% of newly qualified teachers are quitting the profession within three years of qualifying.
Sure they are. I wouldn’t teach these days ....if you paid me. However to go back to the original point, your bus comrades, at least one of them, have choices. And let’s face it, physics is for brighter kids - not the yobs that make teaching a nightmare.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Rum » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:05 pm

Duplicate.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:07 pm

You can say that again. :D
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:19 am

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by laklak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:50 am

Meh. it's gonna be Malthus Gruel for the lot of you.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by JimC » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:41 am

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And let’s face it, physics is for brighter kids - not the yobs that make teaching a nightmare.
That's what made my last 15 years of teaching bearable - I was teaching students who wanted to learn physics and higher maths...
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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:55 pm

The Economist wrote:Millennial socialism
A new kind of left-wing doctrine is emerging. It is not the answer to capitalism’s problems


After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the 20th century’s ideological contest seemed over. Capitalism had won and socialism became a byword for economic failure and political oppression. It limped on in fringe meetings, failing states and the turgid liturgy of the Chinese Communist Party. Today, 30 years on, socialism is back in fashion. In America Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a newly elected congresswoman who calls herself a democratic socialist, has become a sensation even as the growing field of Democratic presidential candidates for 2020 veers left. In Britain Jeremy Corbyn, the hardline leader of the Labour Party, could yet win the keys to 10 Downing Street.

Socialism is storming back because it has formed an incisive critique of what has gone wrong in Western societies. Whereas politicians on the right have all too often given up the battle of ideas and retreated towards chauvinism and nostalgia, the left has focused on inequality, the environment, and how to vest power in citizens rather than elites (see article). Yet, although the reborn left gets some things right, its pessimism about the modern world goes too far. Its policies suffer from naivety about budgets, bureaucracies and businesses.

Socialism’s renewed vitality is remarkable. In the 1990s left-leaning parties shifted to the centre. As leaders of Britain and America, Tony Blair and Bill Clinton claimed to have found a “third way”, an accommodation between state and market. “This is my socialism,” Mr Blair declared in 1994 while abolishing Labour’s commitment to the state ownership of firms. Nobody was fooled, especially not socialists.

The left today sees the third way as a dead end. Many of the new socialists are millennials. Some 51% of Americans aged 18-29 have a positive view of socialism, says Gallup. In the primaries in 2016 more young folk voted for Bernie Sanders than for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump combined. Almost a third of French voters under 24 in the presidential election in 2017 voted for the hard-left candidate. But millennial socialists do not have to be young. Many of Mr Corbyn’s keenest fans are as old as he is.

Not all millennial socialist goals are especially radical. In America one policy is universal health care, which is normal elsewhere in the rich world, and desirable. Radicals on the left say they want to preserve the advantages of the market economy. And in both Europe and America the left is a broad, fluid coalition, as movements with a ferment of ideas usually are.

Nonetheless there are common themes. The millennial socialists think that inequality has spiralled out of control and that the economy is rigged in favour of vested interests. They believe that the public yearns for income and power to be redistributed by the state to balance the scales. They think that myopia and lobbying have led governments to ignore the increasing likelihood of climate catastrophe. And they believe that the hierarchies which govern society and the economy—regulators, bureaucracies and companies—no longer serve the interests of ordinary folk and must be “democratised”....

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:59 am

So, they're just a bunch of stupid kids, just like we were. They'll learn.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:27 am

but will they learn fast enough not to grow old in squalor and misery?
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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:52 am

If they weren't so busy taking selfies and talking themselves up on social media they might get around to overthrowing the current system.
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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:18 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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Corporate cronyism is an emergent phenomenon out of capitalism.
It exists in Russia and China, emerging from their Marxist experiments.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:24 am

It's still a natural emergence out of capitalism. The competition for profits naturally leads to a corporate take over of government. It's the best way to secure profits.
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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Hermit » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:47 am

Cronyism predates capitalism by millennia.

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Re: Millennials have no hope for future

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:18 am

rainbow wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:18 am
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Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:46 am
Corporate cronyism is an emergent phenomenon out of capitalism.
It exists in Russia and China, emerging from their Marxist experiments.

Ownership is no longer linked to control.
This the great change. You dont need to own anything to control it. We have little in public ownership but it is all very controlled for the benefit of the people. It saves having inefficient government government departments ordering say material for the rail services for instance. The industry is given goals and must reach them or face fines.

The biggest challenge that has to be faced is the huge multinational media companies. The ridiculous wealth is a pure insult on society. The corruption must be taken charge of at an international level. They must be bought under control.
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