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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:54 pm

The threats faced by police have been greatly exaggerated. But, it keeps them swimming in the latest military hardware, so we're unlikely to see much in the way of a correction in reporting on that front.
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Post by Hermit » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:11 pm

JimC wrote:
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We have some of the same issues with police here, but I suspect less overall. One reason may be the comparative lack of guns - it seems to me that anytime a policeman in the States pulls someone over, they realise that there is an excellent chance that the person is carrying (legally or illegally) a gun, which is not the case here. (There are some guns around, but in almost all shootings, it's underworld figures shooting other criminals...)

Knowing that, even for a relatively decent cop, would tend to make you nervous and paranoid, I imagine...
True. The point is, though, that cops very, very likely would not have formed an opinion that something untoward may be going on, had the person they saw tidying a front yard with the use of a bucket and a pickup tool been Caucasian. He certainly would not have pulled a gun on him and called for backup in a 16 minute confrontation. It would have been a case of "Good morning, sir. Nice job picking up that rubbish, sir. Have a nice day, sir."

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Post by Seabass » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:44 pm

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I don't know how you fix it.
Fewer Republicans in government = fewer guns in circulation = less fearful cops.
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Post by JimC » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:25 pm

Hermit wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:11 pm
JimC wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:34 pm
We have some of the same issues with police here, but I suspect less overall. One reason may be the comparative lack of guns - it seems to me that anytime a policeman in the States pulls someone over, they realise that there is an excellent chance that the person is carrying (legally or illegally) a gun, which is not the case here. (There are some guns around, but in almost all shootings, it's underworld figures shooting other criminals...)

Knowing that, even for a relatively decent cop, would tend to make you nervous and paranoid, I imagine...
True. The point is, though, that cops very, very likely would not have formed an opinion that something untoward may be going on, had the person they saw tidying a front yard with the use of a bucket and a pickup tool been Caucasian. He certainly would not have pulled a gun on him and called for backup in a 16 minute confrontation. It would have been a case of "Good morning, sir. Nice job picking up that rubbish, sir. Have a nice day, sir."
Yeah, I don't disagree that there seems to be strong racial profiling element in the psyche of white cops, as well as gun-related paranoia...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:31 pm

If only we could all have Dutch police, the best in the world...


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Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:11 am

I"m mightily bothered by stuff that gives me problems... anybody might remember that German loanword that means a repetitive phrase or theme in music? I can't remember it, and even net search does not work, my google fu is ineffficient....
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:50 am

Svartalf wrote:
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I"m mightily bothered by stuff that gives me problems... anybody might remember that German loanword that means a repetitive phrase or theme in music? I can't remember it, and even net search does not work, my google fu is ineffficient....
Perhaps the word you're seeking is motif.

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:53 am

Motif, not quite, but that push was enough, Leitmotiv was the word I looked for... and in the wrong direction as I was looking into devivations from Lied...
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:07 am

Ah, a more elegant term. :smoke:

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:45 am

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is that something you eat?
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It's what comes out of my nose when I sneeze.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:29 am

your nose creates weird snot.
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Post by Hermit » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:38 am

JimC wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:25 pm
Hermit wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:11 pm
JimC wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:34 pm
We have some of the same issues with police here, but I suspect less overall. One reason may be the comparative lack of guns - it seems to me that anytime a policeman in the States pulls someone over, they realise that there is an excellent chance that the person is carrying (legally or illegally) a gun, which is not the case here. (There are some guns around, but in almost all shootings, it's underworld figures shooting other criminals...)

Knowing that, even for a relatively decent cop, would tend to make you nervous and paranoid, I imagine...
True. The point is, though, that cops very, very likely would not have formed an opinion that something untoward may be going on, had the person they saw tidying a front yard with the use of a bucket and a pickup tool been Caucasian. He certainly would not have pulled a gun on him and called for backup in a 16 minute confrontation. It would have been a case of "Good morning, sir. Nice job picking up that rubbish, sir. Have a nice day, sir."
Yeah, I don't disagree that there seems to be strong racial profiling element in the psyche of white cops, as well as gun-related paranoia...
Stupid Americans. Something else they could learn from us. We don't use guns. We don't need to. We arrest Aborigines, put them in a cell, then kill them. "Deaths in custody" avoid a lot of unfavourable publicity. Most of them don't even find their way into Youtube. Between 1979-80 and April 2018 1,600 deaths occurred in prison and 985 in police custody and custody-related operations. 500 of them were Aborigines. Considering that 3.3% of Australians are of of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander origin, That is a huge overrepresentation, even after taking into account that they are overrepresented in the prison population already.

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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:00 am

The neo-Nazi plot against America is much bigger than we realize
Lt Christopher Hasson is the product of traditions in white supremacist circles, and experts say there are ‘thousands like him’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... _5_E6Wfrhw


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