Yet more problematic stuff

[trdsf]

Meanwhile in Alabama...

Hard as it is to believe, this editorial titled "Klan needs to ride again" was published not in February of 1919, but just last week. The editor then doubled down on the evil by telling another Alabama newspaper asking him about the incendiary editorial that "We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them".

Who are "them"? Why, Democrats, "Democrats in the Republican Party", and "socialist-communists" who it's okay to lynch because they aren't really Americans.

If your stomach can handle it, this is just the latest in a long line of evil from this little paper. This is just the first time (at least that anyone can find) that he's outright called for assassination of politicians he disagrees with.

[Cunt]

Open racism? It's almost as disgusting as faking a hate-crime.

[JimC]

Open racism? It's almost as disgusting as faking a hate-crime.

And what's that petty, nasty oblique little dig meant to mean?

You never comment directly when shown clear hate-mongering from the lunatic right. Too close to home, possibly...

[laklak]

Alabama, what you gonna do?

[trdsf]

Open racism? It's almost as disgusting as faking a hate-crime.

And what's that petty, nasty oblique little dig meant to mean?

You never comment directly when shown clear hate-mongering from the lunatic right. Too close to home, possibly...

Faking a hate crime. You know, like the College Republican field rep who carved a 'B' (for Barack) into her own face and then told police a big black man did it because there was a McCain sticker on her car, two weeks before the 2008 election.

Of course he's already said he redefined racism--without bothering to say what his definition is, obviously.

I tend to think that if one feels the need to redefine racism, one might be trying to squirm out from underneath the standard definition.

[pErvinalia]

Covington teen is suing WaPo for defamation for $350 million. Good to see he settled on a low figure.

[Forty Two]

Meanwhile in Alabama...

Hard as it is to believe, this editorial titled "Klan needs to ride again" was published not in February of 1919, but just last week. The editor then doubled down on the evil by telling another Alabama newspaper asking him about the incendiary editorial that "We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them".

Who are "them"? Why, Democrats, "Democrats in the Republican Party", and "socialist-communists" who it's okay to lynch because they aren't really Americans.

Well, I'll go on record as saying that guy is apparently a stupid, racist asshole, and I wouldn't do business with that paper, or advertise in it, etc. It's no wonder that the editorial made international news, and is published all over the place. It's a major newspaper, after all. It's circulation (paid and unpaid) is estimated at 3,000, and it's print only. So, a few hundred people in the "Demopolis, Alabama" area read the article which reads like a grammar school kid wrote it.

Racism definitely exists. There's no doubt about that.

[Forty Two]

Don't worry about climate change—porn is the real crisis.

Arizona considers declaring porn a public health crisis
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... lth-crisis

(yes, of course it's Republicans...)

(or, a radical feminist.... these things come full circle)
https://fightthenewdrug.org/dr-gail-din ... lth-issue/

(or, a progressive....)

five other Senate Democrats, including Minnesota’s left-wing warrior, Amy Klobuchar, also signed the letter, and they were applauded by feminists, leftist lawyers, and liberal academics. Together, this increasingly vocal segment of progressives is making the case that hardcore porn flies in the face of cherished liberal causes—and that Democrats should be leading the charge to take down its distributors.

“To be anti-porn is a progressive principle.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obamas-po ... ity-fought

See - progressives ain't liberal.

Now, me, of course, my views on this forum are well known - pro free speech and free expression - pro legalization of prostitution, etc. Porn for those who want it, I say. But, then I'm liberal - neither conservative, nor progressive.

Who shall oppose the feminist and progressive anti-porn view! (biting fingernails, as people nervously decide whether they can oppose something progressive and feminist, or whether that will be seen as "Carrying Water" for the reactionary anti-porn conservatives).

I know! We'll have it both ways! We like the porn the conservatives hate, because conservatives hate the good porn. We don't like the porn progressives and feminists hate, because, like, they're only opposed to the porn that hurts women. There! Conundrum solved!

[Cunt]

Open racism? It's almost as disgusting as faking a hate-crime.

And what's that petty, nasty oblique little dig meant to mean?

You never comment directly when shown clear hate-mongering from the lunatic right. Too close to home, possibly...

It reminded me of the Jussie actor who faked a hate crime.

The Covington teen one is similar, but not as clearly racist.

Is a hate-crime worse? Or faking one?

Of course he's already said he redefined racism--without bothering to say what his definition is, obviously.

I tend to think that if one feels the need to redefine racism, one might be trying to squirm out from underneath the standard definition.

Yeah, a lot of people like to call Trump racist, or say that the US is the most racist country. I stopped listening after awhile. It's like calling people Nazis.

I don't like racism, and don't support it. I dislike the way it is used to trigger attacks though. Do you think the covington teens would have been such villains if a white guy had been making noise in their face? Or do you think smirking at a native elder had a racist tone?

[Forty Two]

All white people are racist.

[trdsf]

Well, I'll go on record as saying that guy is apparently a stupid, racist asshole, and I wouldn't do business with that paper, or advertise in it, etc. It's no wonder that the editorial made international news, and is published all over the place. It's a major newspaper, after all. It's circulation (paid and unpaid) is estimated at 3,000, and it's print only. So, a few hundred people in the "Demopolis, Alabama" area read the article which reads like a grammar school kid wrote it.

Racism definitely exists. There's no doubt about that.

It's more to the point that people think it's okay to be publicly stupid racist assholes like this, and that they feel comfortable in what the modern Republican party has become under Trump. Like the actual Illinois Nazi who ran as a Republican for Congress last year -- in fairness, despite the Illinois GOP's efforts to keep him off their line on the ballot; they didn't go out and recruit him. But the fact remains that Trumpism attracts, rather than repels, this sort of racism.

And you're being deliberately naïve. This is the age of the Internet. Everything has the potential to be national or international now, however parochially produced or targeted. I expect that's exactly the mistake this editor made, thinking that it was still the 1960s (or even 1860s) and there was no audience outside his immediate geographical area.

You're also ignoring the fact that he also publicly mounted a call for the assassination of politicians with whom he disagrees. That's a bit beyond merely "stupid, racist asshole".

[Forty Two]

The kind of lingo he used regarding "calls for assassination" are used all the time by people on both sides of the spectrum. How many such assassination threads has Trump himself gotten?

I'm not being naive - I realize anyone can make international news over a tiny thing, and they do. Like, the Covington Catholic boys and a guy banging a drum. Nobody did anything to anybody. It became an international scandal over someone's interpretation of a 15 year old boy's smile. It wasn't news, but it was made news.

That's the same as this dipishit. He owns a newspaper, which is basically a computer program to format a printer (if he even uses that -- he may well still do it manually, a-la 30 years ago) and a contract with a printing company to publish a few copies of the guy's personal "newspaper." It has a total circulation of -- maybe - 3,000 - and that's not "paid" circulation (people who shell out the $1 for a copy). The number of people who actually read this dipshit's paper probably number in the 100s.

Democratic Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal said she hoped Trump was assassinated. Madonna called for the white house to be blown up (she imagined it being blown up). Kathy Griffin held up a severed head of the President, bloody, etc. Acrtess Carole Cooke asked where John Wilkes Boothe is when we need him - suggesting someone should shoot the President. The New York Times published a Trump assassination short story about killing Trump. Actor Peter Fonda suggested that Barron Trump should be kidnapped and harmed. Actor Mickey Rourke wanted "30 seconds in a room with that little Bitch!" and suggested using a bat on him. Larry Whitmore joked about using a pillow to smother Trump. Comedian George Lopez tweeted an image of Vincente Fox holding up the severed head of Donald Trump saying "Make America Great Again." Rock Star Marilyn Manson had Trump decapitated and bloody in his concerts. Rosie O'Donnell tweeted out a game called 'Push Trump off a Clif." Robert DeNiro said he wanted to punch trump in the face. Snoop Dogg fires a gun at Trump. New York's Public Theater did a Julius Caesar version where modern Senators stab Trump to death. Big Sean. Anthony Bourdain. Johnny Depp. Pearl Jam/Eddie Vedder.

All of those things had greater "circulation" than the stupid dipshit's paper.

That doesn't make any of it 'right." I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people say shit all the time.

And, lastly - at least in this particular article - he did not directly call for assassination:



The "editorial" is written like an illiterate wrote it, but the paragraph about killing refers to "Slaves" sometimes borrowing their master's robes and horses to frighten some evil doer, and sometimes "they" (the slaves) killed someone, so what (missing a comma). Then in the next paragraph he says "This is the same so what used when Democrats got us into World War 1 and World War 2. Then they got us fighting in Korea. Then when the industrial northeast wanted more money they got us into Vietnam..." then "Seems like the Klan would be welcome to raid the gated communities..."

In the same way the above anti-Trumpers say they didn't actually "call for" any action against Trump, that's the same excuse this dipshit in Alabama can use - he said it "seems like the Klan would be welcome..." - that's like saying it seems like a good idea that someone push Trump off a cliff or shoot him.

Yes, the guy is a scumbag racist. Yes, he runs a newspaper, and he can't write, or he does so drunk. But, his "reach" with this stupid paper was a few people in his podunk county. He wasn't online. He didn't Tweet anything. It's funny how CNN, MSNBC, the BBC the Guardian, etc. publish this dipshit's stupid editorial, but they don't say much about other threats of violence. https://www.wibc.com/blogs/chicks-right ... tives-rise

Don't get me wrong, again - this guy is a racist asshole, and he should shut his stupid fat mouth. Time for his paper to go under, and I hope he loses his readership and his advertisers. But, I won't hold my breath as his readership is probably a bunch of his friends in the county there, and his advertisers are probably other racist assholes that run the feed store and the propane distributorship there.

This kind of thing is given power and life by being published in international media. Nobody heard of this asshole before. He publishes this scandalous editorial, it's all over the world, and suddenly he has a large audience. He'll probably go online, and start an account where people of his ilk, who never heard of him before, can help fund him. Then he'll write a book.

[Cunt]

The media is weird. They push obvious self-serving fakery (covington teens, Smollett, Ford etc.) and still have credibility the next day.

Shouldn't they be treated like a bunch of liars who try to manipulate the public into thinking what they want?

I mean, how long does their error stick to them? How long does this kind of manipulative tactic damage the credibility of those espousing it?

The left has no problem with their lies, and addressing those bullshit extreme leftists is maybe the only way the left can regain some of their credibility.

Or they can just keep calling all white people racist, and try to arrange hate-crimes to help them pass anti-lynching bills...

[trdsf]

And, lastly - at least in this particular article - he did not directly call for assassination:



The "editorial" is written like an illiterate wrote it, but the paragraph about killing refers to "Slaves" sometimes borrowing their master's robes and horses to frighten some evil doer, and sometimes "they" (the slaves) killed someone, so what (missing a comma). Then in the next paragraph he says "This is the same so what used when Democrats got us into World War 1 and World War 2. Then they got us fighting in Korea. Then when the industrial northeast wanted more money they got us into Vietnam..." then "Seems like the Klan would be welcome to raid the gated communities..."

In the same way the above anti-Trumpers say they didn't actually "call for" any action against Trump, that's the same excuse this dipshit in Alabama can use - he said it "seems like the Klan would be welcome..." - that's like saying it seems like a good idea that someone push Trump off a cliff or shoot him.

Yes, the guy is a scumbag racist. Yes, he runs a newspaper, and he can't write, or he does so drunk. But, his "reach" with this stupid paper was a few people in his podunk county. He wasn't online. He didn't Tweet anything. It's funny how CNN, MSNBC, the BBC the Guardian, etc. publish this dipshit's stupid editorial, but they don't say much about other threats of violence. https://www.wibc.com/blogs/chicks-right ... tives-rise

Don't get me wrong, again - this guy is a racist asshole, and he should shut his stupid fat mouth. Time for his paper to go under, and I hope he loses his readership and his advertisers. But, I won't hold my breath as his readership is probably a bunch of his friends in the county there, and his advertisers are probably other racist assholes that run the feed store and the propane distributorship there.

This kind of thing is given power and life by being published in international media. Nobody heard of this asshole before. He publishes this scandalous editorial, it's all over the world, and suddenly he has a large audience. He'll probably go online, and start an account where people of his ilk, who never heard of him before, can help fund him. Then he'll write a book.

And unlike you, I am not going to indulge in "whattaboutism". Anyone who's called for Trump's assassination is wrong, period, end of statement, no argument, no debate. And as my second link pointed out and as I quote directly from his comments to the Montgomery Advertiser:

"We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them."

...so it's more than a little disingenuous to claim that he didn't "directly call for assassination". Yes, he fucking well did. Also period, end of statement.

The Pope can only dream of followers as blindly faithful as Trumpies. Is it even remotely possible for you to admit that Trump and/or his supporters have done something wrong without trying to play the "what about..." card? Can you genuinely not just say, "Yeah, he fucked up" without trying to mitigate it in some way?

Because you know what? There is no mitigating a call for lynching. I don't give a rat's ass which side it's on.

[pErvinalia]

God bless Merka and freedum of speech!