Liberals - the Clever Sillies

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Re: Liberals - the Clever Sillies

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:51 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:05 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:29 pm
Hermit wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:53 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:37 pm
Democrat stupidity includes an overall view that socialism is good...
Citation needed.

Or did you mean 'a mixed economy' when you used the word 'socialism'? Even then I doubt that Democrat voters would support a Nordic nation style mixed economy, (support for which would not be 'stupidity' in my view) . If they did, Bernie Sanders would have been a shoe-in at the previous primaries and every Democratic candidate would be a political Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez lookalike.
No, I mean socialism. The new wave of Democrats, and the Sanders wing of the old wave, are socialists.

Democrats prefer socialism https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 988558002/
They really mean "social democracy". Unfortunately it appears that Americans don't actually know what socialism is.
They don't, actually. They say what they mean. She Guevara is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. "Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few." -- The economy run democratically. The economy run democratically - and "society" too. LOL. "Social ownership could take many forms, such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives." -- So, I can't own a business. It has to be "socially owned" by my employees, or publicly owned (owned by the State).

The Democratic Socialists of America state, "In the short term we can’t eliminate private corporations, but we can bring them under greater democratic control." - you see, in the short term - they know they have to put up with private companies short term. The long term goal is to eliminate private corporations. I own a private corporation.

Socialism has gone “mainstream” and is now supported by the majority of Americans, Sen. Bernard Sanders asserted this week, saying Democrats should embrace rather than shun the term as they campaign to win control of Congress. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -mainstre/

These people know the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism.
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Re: Liberals - the Clever Sillies

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:47 pm

Yes, AOC and Bern know the difference. But the public that was polled don't. Keep in mind too that electing someone like AOC or Sanders to prez wouldn't mean the US all of a sudden is socialist. They have to operate within the existing liberal capital system. What you'd get, assuming they could function with the cooperation of congress, would be social democracy.
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Re: Liberals - the Clever Sillies

Post by Seabass » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:30 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:37 pm
Seabass wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:44 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:29 pm
What's the reason so many astrology buffs vote Democrat? Their smarts?
Oh please. You're going to equate that to the racism, sexism, religiosity, nationalism, homophobia, climate denial of the Republican party?
Religiosity yes. In fact, it's worse than religion.

There is nothing wrong with "nationalism." That's just the identification with one's own nation and its interests. So what? Now white nationalism or black nationalism - that's bad, because it suggests a nation based on a race.

And if you talk to most on the left, anyone is racist just for being Republican. You don't even have to hold a racist belief. They declare policy views to be racist. Against Obamacare? Racist. Against illegal immigration? Racist.

Seabass wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:44 pm

No one said there weren't any stupid Democrats. But the GOP is where you find the proper weapons-grade stupidity. Democrat stupidity tends to be reactor-grade, and there is far less of it, and it tends to be far less harmful.
The comparison was that the Democrats were smarter than the Republicans.

Democrat stupidity includes an overall view that socialism is good, and economically sound. There is far more belief in the paranormal, astrological, and various absurd nonsense like crystals, homeopathy, and anti-GMO nonsense.
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