Where's the automation?

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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:54 pm

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:17 am
Yeah, they don't bother me but they don't go far enough either. Why even have store fronts? Are they necessary? Think of the space we could save. A trip to the store amounts to picking things up at a window. (It should be better than that but you get the idea) Of course they may opt to have deliveries only, and cut out what would have amounted to nothing but an automated warehouse anyway. This would reduce driving dramatically and we could find creative ways to use the new space for public transport to and from more meaningful activities.

But what about window shopping? Well, you can still have it. But without all the waste. Think movie theater for shopping...
Some players (Amazon, and Woolies here in Australia) are moving to staffless store fronts. Using things like RFID chips to automatically charge your purchases.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Svartalf » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:23 pm

I've heard of that... I might stand the Amazon system, what I hate is having to register my purchases... Of course, I may not be able to go to an Amazon market until I actually have access to my bank account rather than having to rely on cash. (and so long as I'm cashbound, I'll go to staffed storefronts)
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Tero » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:34 pm

As long as the 1% pay me to be a consumer.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by cronus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:42 pm

Rum wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:26 pm
I think you have this wrong. The world has already been transformed by the microchip and the computer. We do things these days - and take them for granted - that would have been impossible 25 years ago. These include medical, technological, scientific and engineering tasks and processes. The internet has resulted in a sea change in the way research and development for all sorts of things take place.

All this has required 'automation' which is what the OP is about. Sequencing genes is just one small example.

I suspect the process will continue and probably speed up. And it isn't inevitable that AI, which is what you are talking about, rather than automation as such, will create the doom-laden 'avalanche' you refer to. Like all technology, it will depend on how it is employed.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Rum » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:53 pm

cronus wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:42 pm
Rum wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:26 pm
I think you have this wrong. The world has already been transformed by the microchip and the computer. We do things these days - and take them for granted - that would have been impossible 25 years ago. These include medical, technological, scientific and engineering tasks and processes. The internet has resulted in a sea change in the way research and development for all sorts of things take place.

All this has required 'automation' which is what the OP is about. Sequencing genes is just one small example.

I suspect the process will continue and probably speed up. And it isn't inevitable that AI, which is what you are talking about, rather than automation as such, will create the doom-laden 'avalanche' you refer to. Like all technology, it will depend on how it is employed.
All the problems been solved. Ain't that what all aging generations have claimed to declare their seat in the ring of power?
Is that a statement? A question? A comment? Did I remotely say that?

All the problems are full of doom and unsolvable. Ain't that what all aging generations have claimed to declare their seat in the ring of power?

Unending incoherence.

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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by cronus » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:28 am

Rum wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:53 pm
cronus wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:42 pm
Rum wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:26 pm
I think you have this wrong. The world has already been transformed by the microchip and the computer. We do things these days - and take them for granted - that would have been impossible 25 years ago. These include medical, technological, scientific and engineering tasks and processes. The internet has resulted in a sea change in the way research and development for all sorts of things take place.

All this has required 'automation' which is what the OP is about. Sequencing genes is just one small example.

I suspect the process will continue and probably speed up. And it isn't inevitable that AI, which is what you are talking about, rather than automation as such, will create the doom-laden 'avalanche' you refer to. Like all technology, it will depend on how it is employed.
All the problems been solved. Ain't that what all aging generations have claimed to declare their seat in the ring of power?
Is that a statement? A question? A comment? Did I remotely say that?

All the problems are full of doom and unsolvable. Ain't that what all aging generations have claimed to declare their seat in the ring of power?

Unending incoherence.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Rum » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:33 am

No you didn't. Don't flatter yourself.

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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:41 am

He got me thinking about whether he needs a medical intervention... :D
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by cronus » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:43 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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He got me thinking about whether he needs a medical intervention... :D
Meds don't go well with alcohol but I'm religious with them.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:48 am

Psych meds and alcohol don't mix well.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by cronus » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:01 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:48 am
Psych meds and alcohol don't mix well.
You've mixed them too, then?
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 am

Absolutely. Although, I've more or less given up alcohol to help improve my mental health. I still have a beer or two on an occasion (had a couple after cricket on saturday).
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by cronus » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:31 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 am
Absolutely. Although, I've more or less given up alcohol to help improve my mental health. I still have a beer or two on an occasion (had a couple after cricket on saturday).


I intend to quit. Think the hangovers are effecting my liver or something.
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:43 am

You will or you won't. So it goes...

Remember when you used to have to queue up to get cash or in a shop to buy shit, and now you just wave your card at a box or click a picture and it's on it's way? Remember when you had to do an engineering degrees and a seven year apprenticeship to become an architect and now all you have to do is own a computer and the right CAD package?
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Re: Where's the automation?

Post by Svartalf » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:23 am

I still thing you need a lot of larnin' to be an architect... I'm not sure CAD takes every factor into account, like material properties and the like, I used to know an architect, he was more of an engineer.

and I don't mind queuing in the shops, if that means a person who'd have trouble finding another job has one.
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