Abolish Nation States

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:10 am

What would happen if we somehow convinced enough people in the world that nation states are illogical and that we are a single species and every human no matter where they are born deserves certain minimum standards and dignity? I don't have the numbers at hand, but I've seen it quoted that we could end world poverty with a trillion dollars, or something of that order. Let's say it was 10 trillion. The world economy generates that pretty easily. And even if it didn't, we could easily extract that much money from the rich in western societies. Would you be willing to live in a modest home with modest accoutrements (furniture, fittings, cars, technology, etc) if it meant that most of the poor in the world could live without crushing poverty and possibly even the same minimum standards as you?
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Re: Abolish Nation States

Post by rainbow » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:11 am

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Post by Jason » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:12 am

I already live that way.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:15 am

So do I.

I guess the question is best addressed by those who live a comfortable middle-class existence or above.
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Post by Jason » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:18 am

I think it's a choice for us in our societies to live as we do though, so it still counts.

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Post by cronus » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:49 am

All that would happen is people use religions and cults for their tribalism identities and the poverty, unfairness and various wars would continue as before. You can see it now with the current experiment in globalism moving the goalposts of what a tribe means into something more backward and primitive, not less stupid.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:54 am

Well the benign global government dictatorship would crush any such tribalism. As it's head, I'd make sure of it..
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:21 am

No. Because then there would be no Irish people. And that would be a shame.
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Post by Jason » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:24 am

There'd still be Irish people. He didn't say Abolish Nation States and Purge the Irish.

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Post by Hermit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:31 am

Animavore wrote:
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No. Because then there would be no Irish people. And that would be a shame.
A shame, you say? A shame?!

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:37 am

Devogue is a Brit.
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Re: Abolish Nation States

Post by Hermit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:39 am

Animavore wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:37 am
Devogue is a Brit.
He has lived on the Irish isle long enough to make him Irish.
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Post by JimC » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:57 am

Is that the flutter of tiny porcine wings I hear in the night air?
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Re: Abolish Nation States

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:01 am

Yeah. But it doesn't hurt to hypothecate..
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Re: Abolish Nation States

Post by JimC » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:04 am

Do it too much and you'll go blind... :tea:
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