Islam - How Awful Is It?
Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
I just addressed that 50 a year bullshit above rEv. Please pay attention.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
YOU quoted the NPR article that has 33+ per year.
I don't know why I keep expecting any different, but again, it's YOUR claim. What numbers do you claim leave the US for jihad? This is the last time I'll be asking. After that, I'm taking pity on you and leaving you alone. There's something decidedly not right at your end of the internet.
I don't know why I keep expecting any different, but again, it's YOUR claim. What numbers do you claim leave the US for jihad? This is the last time I'll be asking. After that, I'm taking pity on you and leaving you alone. There's something decidedly not right at your end of the internet.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
andJimC wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:46 pmThe handful that do get radicalised do need to be treated seriously, by good intelligence and police work, and dealt with firmly. In Australia at least, that is generally happening.
What we don't need is a broad, unthinking, racist anti-Islam movement, where women wearing headscarfs are spat at on the streets. It is precisely those sort of things which contribute to the radicalisation in the first place...
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
You might further note, that in the above quote I was not exclusively referring to the United States, but rather used a conjunction (and) to indicate a further development of the point in the specific case I know of, that being the problem in Canada the RCMP are facing in prosecuting returning terrorists, and further suggested that the USA is facing the same problem.
If you would deign to read the paper (https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files ... ndIraq.pdf) you'll find that the author's do not diminish the reality of this threat, and in fact suggest it may become even larger and go on to suggest that a much stronger response is required.
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Re: Should Stupidity Be Declared A Criminal Ideology?
Śiva wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:33 pmIncidentally, your characterization of American Muslims as non-violent followers of a new Islam doesn't bear the ring of truth as often young American (and Canadian) Muslims are radicalized and travel to conflict zones to slay infidels in the name of their religion.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
What the fuck man? Those aren't the absolute numbers! Read the goddamn paper. Those are the number of people exposed by the 64 returning terrorist they caught, and only those that are/were Salafi Jihadists and who went to Iraq/Syria from 2014 onward.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:16 amYOU quoted the NPR article that has 33+ per year.
I don't know why I keep expecting any different, but again, it's YOUR claim. What numbers do you claim leave the US for jihad? This is the last time I'll be asking. After that, I'm taking pity on you and leaving you alone. There's something decidedly not right at your end of the internet.
Again, it does not claim to represent the entirety of the number of American Muslims who have travelled abroad to engage in terrorist activities.
Re: Should Stupidity Be Declared A Criminal Ideology?
Profound. Now actually engage. OK?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:21 amŚiva wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:33 pmIncidentally, your characterization of American Muslims as non-violent followers of a new Islam doesn't bear the ring of truth as often young American (and Canadian) Muslims are radicalized and travel to conflict zones to slay infidels in the name of their religion.
Just saying.
We're contending that right now, at least I am. You're just being obtuse and trolling.
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Re: Should Stupidity Be Declared A Criminal Ideology?
Why the fuck would i when you can't even get the basics right?Śiva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:22 amProfound. Now actually engage. OK?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:21 amŚiva wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:33 pmIncidentally, your characterization of American Muslims as non-violent followers of a new Islam doesn't bear the ring of truth as often young American (and Canadian) Muslims are radicalized and travel to conflict zones to slay infidels in the name of their religion.
Just saying.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
And with that I'm done with you. Something's not right.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
What? "Done with me?" You haven't even engaged.
Re: Should Stupidity Be Declared A Criminal Ideology?
What fucking 'basics?' What the hell are you talking about?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:24 amWhy the fuck would i when you can't even get the basics right?Śiva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:22 amProfound. Now actually engage. OK?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:21 amŚiva wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:33 pmIncidentally, your characterization of American Muslims as non-violent followers of a new Islam doesn't bear the ring of truth as often young American (and Canadian) Muslims are radicalized and travel to conflict zones to slay infidels in the name of their religion.
Just saying.
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Oh my fucking God. You just tried to claim you were talking about Canadians primarily by quoting your words that neither Hermit nor I were responding to. So I quoted the words that show you were talking primarily about the US
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
How about you stop trying to get me on some technicality (which is a fabrication of your apparently fevered mind), and instead engaging with what I'm writing?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:27 amOh my fucking God. You just tried to claim you were talking about Canadians primarily by quoting your words that neither Hermit nor I were responding to. So I quoted the words that show you were talking primarily about the US
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
No chance. As I said, you can't even get the basics right, so there's no point trying to go further.
In summary, you've tried to paint moderate Islam in the west as some sort of violent threat to our societies. You buttressed that wild assertion in part with your claim that "often young American muslims blah blah jihad blah blah". It's not a technicality. THAT is where we start to dismantle your ridiculous assertion that mainstream Islam is a violent threat. If we can't even get past that point with you, then there's no point trying any further.
In summary, you've tried to paint moderate Islam in the west as some sort of violent threat to our societies. You buttressed that wild assertion in part with your claim that "often young American muslims blah blah jihad blah blah". It's not a technicality. THAT is where we start to dismantle your ridiculous assertion that mainstream Islam is a violent threat. If we can't even get past that point with you, then there's no point trying any further.
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Re: Islam - How Awful Is It?
What fucking basics??? Are you not capable of reading what I write? I addressed your fucking point.
Śiva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:21 amWhat the fuck man? Those aren't the absolute numbers! Read the goddamn paper. Those are the number of people exposed by the 64 returning terrorist they caught, and only those that are/were Salafi Jihadists and who went to Iraq/Syria from 2014 onward.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:16 amYOU quoted the NPR article that has 33+ per year.
I don't know why I keep expecting any different, but again, it's YOUR claim. What numbers do you claim leave the US for jihad? This is the last time I'll be asking. After that, I'm taking pity on you and leaving you alone. There's something decidedly not right at your end of the internet.
Again, it does not claim to represent the entirety of the number of American Muslims who have travelled abroad to engage in terrorist activities.
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