Problematic Stuff

[laklak]

I'm rubber, you're glue...

[Sean Hayden]

I don't shut up I throw up, and your mom licks it up.

[Brian Peacock]

[JimC]

Hobart is the hill billy capital of the antipodes - the Frankfort beneath the Southern Cross.

Actually, although you can still hear the banjos occasionally in the distance, it's moved on...

https://mona.net.au

[Brian Peacock]

OK, I'll grant that the website has all seven of Tassie's cool people.

[JimC]

We're going to visit MONA next year. I hear that it's like, seriously hip, man...

[Joe]

I predict a wall of text.

And slicing posts into little quote slivers like a salami. Makes Gish galloping so much easier.

When a person makes a bunch of points, there is nothing wrong with addressing each point.

There is if you don't make a coherent counter argument, or fail to recognize the point. If a point is made in a couple of sentences, and you respond separately to each sentence, I'd say you missed the point, and muddled the discussion.

And, it's not gish galloping to address a series of arguments or factual claims someone raises.

No, it's known as fisking, and it's usually more annoying than effective. After a few exchanges, the conversation becomes difficult to follow, a tangle of quotes. Of course, your response still could be a gish gallop, but fisking is far worse than any gish gallop. Aside from being widely considered rude, it's lousy writing. The Chicago Manual of Style condemns fisking as "a verbal format more suited to the large primate house than a newspaper," and both Gore Vidal and George Saunders have penned satirical essays lampooning it. Heck, even Robert Fisk, who helped popularize fisking and gave it his name, regrets his involvement in "lowering civil discourse to the level of haphazard noise." But there's a darker side to fisking. It's been implicated in cognitive decline, and correlates strongly with borderline personality disorder, according to a series of studies conducted by the Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology. An early form of the technique was an integral part of Nazi propaganda, and the Defense Intelligence Agency listed it as one of the characteristics by which to identify Russian Facebook trolls. Given it's cognitive impact, they suspect the intent is to diminish Facebook users critical thinking skills. Deputy Director Melissa Drisko said, "Russian use of subliminally damaging patterns of online discourse...may be the black swan of cyber warfare tactics." To top it all off, researchers at the Bonn University Institute of Psychology have found troubling signs that writers who fisk can develop nystagmus, a neurological disorder leading to uncontrolled eye movement and reduced vision. Really Forty Two, maybe you shouldn't be so enthusiastic in slicing the salami.

The salami is the gish gallop.

You're implying the post is a gish gallop. That's pretty cheeky for a simile, and makes me suspect you don't know what a gish gallop is.

Addressing each point by slicing the salami so as to address arguments seriatum is not the gish gallop.

This can be done just as well with a single reply at the end, and an extended exchange is much easier to follow, like a series of letters. If you will note, the forum software supports this style of exchange pretty well.

It's meeting the each argument or factual claim head on.

What is the "it" you refer to here? The salami or the gish gallop?

[laklak]

Yeah but is there a gish fisk? If not we probably need to come up with one. I'm thinking it would take the rhetorical world by storm.

[Joe]

Probably make you go blind.

[Brian Peacock]

Who said that?

[Hermit]

Yeah but is there a gish fisk?

Worse than that, we've just been subjected to a gishfiskdenial/apologetics discombobulation.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah but is there a gish fisk? If not we probably need to come up with one. I'm thinking it would take the rhetorical world by storm.

At least he's not fisting.

[laklak]

gishfiskdenial.

Is that a word in German? It probably should be a word in German.

[Hermit]

gishfiskdenial.

Is that a word in German? It probably should be a word in German.

Me and NeunBeere, we're workingonit.

[pErvinalia]

SCHNELL!!