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Has a superdelegate ever gone against the public vote?
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well, a one trick pony is no fun... but he's also very good at dissing hilly, a shame much of his work is going to be taken up again by the GOP supporters if she gets the nod... or maybe they'll do a better job at disinterring her skeletons.
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But there are only about 712 superdelegates out of about 4750 actual delegates. Superdelegates have never been the determining factor in the Democratic primaries.Hermit wrote:Can not. The primaries are a farce. Clinton has almost all of the superdelegates, who make up about one fifth of all delegates on her side.Svartalf wrote:...if he manages to get the dem investiture, which can still happen...
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Yes, and they are not bound by the public vote. That's how Hillary had some superdelagates locked up before the vote in NH and Iowa. These are Senators, Representatives, and Democratic Party leaders that have openly declared who they are supporting.Animavore wrote:Has a superdelegate ever gone against the public vote?
But they are not as big a deal as folks are making it out to be. There are only about 712 of them, and there are something like 4750 total delegates.Thus, over 4000 delegates are bound by the vote they cast. Unless this winds up being a record-setting close election, either Hill or Bern will win with or without the superdelegates.
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Re: Bernie Sanders
Well, from everything I've heard, it is very close between Sanders and Clinton, so they may well play a part...Forty Two wrote:Yes, and they are not bound by the public vote. That's how Hillary had some superdelagates locked up before the vote in NH and Iowa. These are Senators, Representatives, and Democratic Party leaders that have openly declared who they are supporting.Animavore wrote:Has a superdelegate ever gone against the public vote?
But they are not as big a deal as folks are making it out to be. There are only about 712 of them, and there are something like 4750 total delegates.Thus, over 4000 delegates are bound by the vote they cast. Unless this winds up being a record-setting close election, either Hill or Bern will win with or without the superdelegates.
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Re: Bernie Sanders
Well, so far 451 of the 747 superdelegates have sided with Clinton and 19 with Sanders, while they have gained 51 ordinary delegates each... I don't know if the superdelegates have ever been the decisive factor getting a candidate nominated even though that candidate attracted viewer votes by the mug punter than another, but the potential is definitely there. They were specifically introduced to the Democrat Party's nomination process in 1984 to diminish the influence of ordinary voters and enhance that of the party machinery instead. My guess is that Clinton will finish up with a comfortable majority in terms of the popular vote in addition to a massive majority of superdelegates, but even if Sanders attracts more votes by the public his nomination will by no means be guaranteed.Animavore wrote:Has a superdelegate ever gone against the public vote?
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