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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by rachelbean » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:36 am

Jesus, a 43 year old essay... the media is pretty desperate.
Sanders then goes on to explain his ideas about gender roles and eventually gets at a sharper point — that traditional gender roles help create troubling dynamics in men's and women's sex lives.

"Many women seem to be walking a tightrope," he writes, as their "qualities of love, openness, and gentleness were too deeply enmeshed with qualities of dependency, subservience, and masochism."

He adds that men, likewise, are confused:

"What is it they want from a woman? Are they at fault? Are they perpetrating this man-woman situation? Are they oppressors?"
One way to read the essay is that Sanders was doing (in a supremely ham-handed way) what journalists do every day: draw the reader in with an attention-getting lede, then get to the meat of the article in the middle...
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:19 am

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I must say that the more Bernie gets up your nose, the more I like him. :smug:
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Forty Two » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:47 am

Is Bernie Sanders too old?

In 2008, folks were rather concerned about John McCain being 71. Bernie is 75.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:08 pm

Bernie is old, he's tagged as socialist... even if he manages to get the dem investiture, which can still happen, his chances of getting elected are nonexistent... I suspect his campaign is encouraged by the GOP.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:41 pm

Svartalf wrote:...if he manages to get the dem investiture, which can still happen...
Can not. The primaries are a farce. Clinton has almost all of the superdelegates, who make up about one fifth of all delegates on her side.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:56 pm

I did not know that... so it's the hilly at any rate... I'm not sure she has much of a chance at being the second clinton in white house, but better than sanders.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:13 pm

Trump it is then. :o
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:34 pm

looks like it
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:08 pm

Not necessarily. Overall, polls have never shown Trump in the lead when it comes to a Trump-Clinton showdown. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -5491.html
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:22 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:37 pm

Interesting piece, but there must be an unaccounted for bias
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:41 pm

Why "must" there?

But, yes, there's no info on the methodology and the sample size. We could probably chase it down. I leave it for Coito to do.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Animavore » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:00 pm

Sanders will be next President; according to this article.

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hillary ... t_the_gop/
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:03 pm

@ rEv : because the Bern is mostly favored by the young, not by the numerous oldsters, nor by the moderates... these figures with him having not only a lead, but a large one feel wrong, either biased (the polled were students and faculty personnel for instance), or made up altogether.

@ ani : that article is wrong, or I am, and I'm pretty sure I know my Merkins well enough to know I'm not.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:18 pm

Svartalf wrote:@ ani : that article is wrong, or I am, and I'm pretty sure I know my Merkins well enough to know I'm not.
Actually, the author is hopelessly besotted by Sanders. It's the only topic he seems to write about, and not just at the Salon. At Huffpo too. I doubt he capable of balanced analysis.
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