What is an MRA?

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What is an MRA?

Post by Robert_S » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:17 pm

Men's Rights Activist.

Are there any here? What are they on about? Do they do anything besides get their panties in a bunch about feminists?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by laklak » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:28 pm

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Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:31 pm

Idk... it's such a loosely defined term. Taken literally it seems perfectly reasonable, but the name MRA has a very different actual meaning than what it sounds like.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by klr » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:32 pm

Pappa wrote:Idk... it's such a loosely defined term. Taken literally it seems perfectly reasonable, but the name MRA has a very different actual meaning than what it sounds like.
A lot like feminism then ...
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:36 pm

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Pappa wrote:Idk... it's such a loosely defined term. Taken literally it seems perfectly reasonable, but the name MRA has a very different actual meaning than what it sounds like.
A lot like feminism then ...
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:40 pm

I know Meeky was for awhile a vocal proponent of fathers' rights on specific issues... that's about as close as I can think of anyone I know. Most people I know are more concerned with human rights.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Azathoth » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:41 pm

I think we are all MRAs and rape apologists here seeing as the terms are applied to anyone who disagrees with apelust dogma
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:00 am

There are allegedly people who self identify as MRAs.

I mean, I've read a blog post by a person who allegedly self identified as an MRA, they went on at length about how feminists don't care about male on male rape, the "Women and children first" meme, and the White Feather Brigade.

They have some interesting points, but since I don't self identify as one, I'll decline to represent them if there's one or two around.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Cormac » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:03 am

Anyone who:

1. Disagrees with Peepee Mires
2. Disagrees with an Ex Cathedra statement of an Apeluster (or their fellow travellers)
3. Anyone who points out the fact that family law is heavily weighted against men
4. Anyone who points out that men are objects of ridicule in the media, in an unrelenting fashion, going back over 20 years now.

...and so on...


Oh - and then there are the actual MRAs - men (and women) who in some cases are assholes, but I'm sure in many cases are not.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Animavore » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:08 am

I thought it was some sort of contact sport or vaccination jab.. :dunno:
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by rachelbean » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:23 am

While I understand that MRA, like feminist, can be a label that people chose which has a lot of baggage, I think a lot of points of the movement as a whole are valid, particularly when it comes to father's rights in relation to access to their own children. I don't think those things are necessarily covered under humanism in general, either.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Pappa » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:37 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:I know Meeky was for awhile a vocal proponent of fathers' rights on specific issues... that's about as close as I can think of anyone I know. Most people I know are more concerned with human rights.
I was trying to find a post of his on the subject earlier, but it escapes me. I think at the time he had no real idea what MRA meant (or has come to mean), but took the phrase at face value. He said something like, "I suppose I am an MRA because..." and talked about father's rights and whatnot.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:51 am

In the UK, they dress up as superheroes and try to climb up national monuments. The police then wait at the bottom until they get tired/hungry/thirsty/run out of fags and come down. They are usually divorced fathers that find it almost impossible to get access rights to their children - often because they are at the top of Nelson's Column dressed in a costume-hire Wolverine suit. :tea:

To be honest though, they have raised the profile of officials rubber-stamping female-parent custody, deliberate obstruction of access rights by said female parents and other shit. Although, as far as I can see, fuck all has changed.
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:02 am

rachelbean wrote:While I understand that MRA, like feminist, can be a label that people chose which has a lot of baggage, I think a lot of points of the movement as a whole are valid, particularly when it comes to father's rights in relation to access to their own children. I don't think those things are necessarily covered under humanism in general, either.
Yup, and just read this story today in the DM. I wonder if she even realizes how sexist her statement was?

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‘I don’t know how a court can believe it is better for such young children to be with their father instead of their mother.'
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Re: What is an MRA?

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:34 pm

Men's rights activists. Well I'm sure there are some who think they are reasonable, but like feminists they are wrong. Again it is a cultural critique, it is not about rights but demands. That there are certain cultural assumptions which are biased towards men and against men is obvious, because there are cultural assumptions that are biased towards and against any group. However even if these assumptions create a change in the legal climate, as the sexist quote that Tyr points out above suggests, they are not a restriction of a right, except when they restrict access to their children.

This, as I see it is the main legitimate gripe these men have but it conflicts with the current cultural narrative and thus is dismissed. Still welcome to equality, no one gets what they want all the time. That means you guys, that means you ladies, and you... whatever the fuck you choose to call yourselves.
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