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PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:18 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
laklak wrote:Moral of the story is don't fuck anyone without a signed consent form.

He: Would you like to have sex with me?
Her: Yes.
He: I'll have my people contact your people, standard contract?
Her: Standard contract, no anal, oral by mutual consent.
He: Done. Meet back here next week?
Her: Great. Ciao!
Another moral is to steer well clear of Skepchicks, A+ers and Freethoughtbloggers. If a woman aligns herself in any way with that ilk, repossess the drink you bought her and tell her to buy her own fucking wine.
You can also add feminist to that. I wouldn't care if they looked like a supermodel I'm making a beeline for the door. :smoke:
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Sælir » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:40 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
laklak wrote:Moral of the story is don't fuck anyone without a signed consent form.

He: Would you like to have sex with me?
Her: Yes.
He: I'll have my people contact your people, standard contract?
Her: Standard contract, no anal, oral by mutual consent.
He: Done. Meet back here next week?
Her: Great. Ciao!
Another moral is to steer well clear of Skepchicks, A+ers and Freethoughtbloggers. If a woman aligns herself in any way with that ilk, repossess the drink you bought her and tell her to buy her own fucking wine.
You can also add feminist to that. I wouldn't care if they looked like a supermodel I'm making a beeline for the door. :smoke:
Seriously? You don't want to sleep with feminists?
And why on earth not?
Do women who consider themselves equal to men scare you? :ask:
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by HomerJay » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:47 pm

You can still get a blow job off a feminist.

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Post by Sælir » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:55 pm

HomerJay wrote:You can still get a blow job off a feminist.
Not if this is his opinion of them.
Feminists normally only give blowjobs to real men. :tea:
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Post by Robert_S » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:30 pm

Sælir wrote:
HomerJay wrote:You can still get a blow job off a feminist.
Not if this is his opinion of them.
Feminists normally only give blowjobs to real men. :tea:
Define "real men" please. :tea:
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:58 pm

Sælir wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
laklak wrote:Moral of the story is don't fuck anyone without a signed consent form.

He: Would you like to have sex with me?
Her: Yes.
He: I'll have my people contact your people, standard contract?
Her: Standard contract, no anal, oral by mutual consent.
He: Done. Meet back here next week?
Her: Great. Ciao!
Another moral is to steer well clear of Skepchicks, A+ers and Freethoughtbloggers. If a woman aligns herself in any way with that ilk, repossess the drink you bought her and tell her to buy her own fucking wine.
You can also add feminist to that. I wouldn't care if they looked like a supermodel I'm making a beeline for the door. :smoke:
Seriously? You don't want to sleep with feminists?
And why on earth not?
Do women who consider themselves equal to men scare you? :ask:
Yes, totally scared. :fp: It's the 21st century and anybody who doesn't think women are equal to men is fucked up. I'm more worried about their all sex is rape bullshit, I'm not going to prison for 15 years because I didn't fill out a consent form.
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Sælir » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:46 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Sælir wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
laklak wrote:Moral of the story is don't fuck anyone without a signed consent form.

He: Would you like to have sex with me?
Her: Yes.
He: I'll have my people contact your people, standard contract?
Her: Standard contract, no anal, oral by mutual consent.
He: Done. Meet back here next week?
Her: Great. Ciao!
Another moral is to steer well clear of Skepchicks, A+ers and Freethoughtbloggers. If a woman aligns herself in any way with that ilk, repossess the drink you bought her and tell her to buy her own fucking wine.
You can also add feminist to that. I wouldn't care if they looked like a supermodel I'm making a beeline for the door. :smoke:
Seriously? You don't want to sleep with feminists?
And why on earth not?
Do women who consider themselves equal to men scare you? :ask:
Yes, totally scared. :fp: It's the 21st century and anybody who doesn't think women are equal to men is fucked up. I'm more worried about their all sex is rape bullshit, I'm not going to prison for 15 years because I didn't fill out a consent form.
Do you not know what it means to be a feminist?
It sure looks like you don't.

And if you really are just talking with your arse and think a feminist equals a woman who thinks all sex is rape then I believe you have reached a new level of stupid in this universe.

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:01 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Yes, totally scared. :fp: It's the 21st century and anybody who doesn't think women are equal to men is fucked up. I'm more worried about their all sex is rape bullshit, I'm not going to prison for 15 years because I didn't fill out a consent form.
The women that think like that aren't feminists - just because they insist that they are louder than anyone else doesn't make it so! They are simply trying to hijack feminism and make it into a feminist "movement", with tagged-on political ideology and misandry. They can fuck off!

I am a feminist. I am a feminist because I find it absurd whenever I see women with less opportunities in life than men. Because I think that jobs should be appointed and paid on merit without gender (or for that matter any other) bias and that everyone doing the same job to the same level of ability should receive equal pay within a company. Because I think that everyone should have complete freedom when it comes to choice of consenting sexual partner. Because I abhor the very idea of a wife as a possession. Because I think ALL children should be brought up without pre-conceived limitations based solely on their gender.

And most of all, I am a feminist cos if you're nice to girlies, sometimes you get nice things back - like a fuck, or a sandwich. :shifty:
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Sælir » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:03 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Yes, totally scared. :fp: It's the 21st century and anybody who doesn't think women are equal to men is fucked up. I'm more worried about their all sex is rape bullshit, I'm not going to prison for 15 years because I didn't fill out a consent form.
The women that think like that aren't feminists - just because they insist that they are louder than anyone else doesn't make it so! They are simply trying to hijack feminism and make it into a feminist "movement", with tagged-on political ideology and misandry. They can fuck off!

I am a feminist. I am a feminist because I find it absurd whenever I see women with less opportunities in life than men. Because I think that jobs should be appointed and paid on merit without gender (or for that matter any other) bias and that everyone doing the same job to the same level of ability should receive equal pay within a company. Because I think that everyone should have complete freedom when it comes to choice of consenting sexual partner. Because I abhor the very idea of a wife as a possession. Because I think ALL children should be brought up without pre-conceived limitations based solely on their gender.

And most of all, I am a feminist cos if you're nice to girlies, sometimes you get nice things back - like a fuck, or a sandwich. :shifty:
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Post by tattuchu » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:36 am

Wait, a sandwich?! I need to be nicer to dem girlies :shock:
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Post by Robert_S » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:20 am

Well, it all comes down to whether you're a good right thinking Catholic feminist or a sadly misguided, heretical and deluded Protestant one.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:04 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Sælir wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
laklak wrote:Moral of the story is don't fuck anyone without a signed consent form.

He: Would you like to have sex with me?
Her: Yes.
He: I'll have my people contact your people, standard contract?
Her: Standard contract, no anal, oral by mutual consent.
He: Done. Meet back here next week?
Her: Great. Ciao!
Another moral is to steer well clear of Skepchicks, A+ers and Freethoughtbloggers. If a woman aligns herself in any way with that ilk, repossess the drink you bought her and tell her to buy her own fucking wine.
You can also add feminist to that. I wouldn't care if they looked like a supermodel I'm making a beeline for the door. :smoke:
Seriously? You don't want to sleep with feminists?
And why on earth not?
Do women who consider themselves equal to men scare you? :ask:
Yes, totally scared. :fp: It's the 21st century and anybody who doesn't think women are equal to men is fucked up.
Women aren't treated equally, though. That's the point.
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Post by Audley Strange » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:02 pm

Hooray! I'm fucked up.

I don't think women are equal to men. I don't know what that means, what are we equating? Wages? Well I've heard the talking points and it seems that in places like the U.K. it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender. So if women aren't getting the same wages. Go to the police.

Crime? Well apart from the fact that most crimes are still commited by men and most assaults and murders are commited on men, what's the big deal? Rape? Oh well that's a crime. Go to the police.

How about not being taken seriously? Well when people would rather complain that there is a problem rather than do something about it, When their talking points are so easily refuted, when their whines betray both their supposed ideology and others they are meant to be fighting for, why would anyone take them seriously.

This kind of victim feminism is an affront to women and men, it is an insult to those in the women's movement of the past and an insult to those who have real struggles. Gossip and finger pointing make you a fucking bitch, not a feminist.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:46 pm

Sælir wrote:
HomerJay wrote:You can still get a blow job off a feminist.
Not if this is his opinion of them.
Feminists normally only give blowjobs to real men. :tea:
That depends on the sort of feminist one is. There is apparently a "politics of blowjobs" debate among various factions of feminism. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... -blowjobs/

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Re: PZ accuses Shermer of rape.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:52 pm

Sælir wrote:
Do you not know what it means to be a feminist?
There are many types of feminists. The ones like Skeptchicks, Apelusters, and unFreethoughtBlogs proclaim themselves feminists, but they do not limit themselves to equality issues.

Sælir wrote: It sure looks like you don't.
Then tell him what it means.
Sælir wrote:
And if you really are just talking with your arse and think a feminist equals a woman who thinks all sex is rape then I believe you have reached a new level of stupid in this universe.
Just read the nonsense foisted upon Shermer in the OP. You think they're not "real feminists" or something? The ones that think that women whose wine glasses are filled and get "flirted" with by Michael Shermer have something to complain about? They're just out for "equality?" "I'm too timid to say I've had enough to drink" is just about equality?
Sælir wrote:
@Robert. Really men are those that realize equality between gender
Whose not agreeing with the concept equality between the sexes?

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