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Take my wallet please!

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:23 am

A sort of spinoff from the old Zimmerman Martin thread. Suppose Martin was the thug and he wants my wallet on the street, fine!
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I don't want any Zimmermans to come by and start shooting. It's only money. I think the gun enthusiasts got their jollies from the fact that Z was allowed to use his gun. He was defending the community from breaking in where people lost a few laptops and whatever junk that could be easily carried.

Let them! It's only junk. I had to supervise my parents junk many times. Once in Finland about 1975, where we had some household stuff and my old train sets and what not (some got stolen) were stored. My dad had a friend who had stored it free 10 years, and he had sold the property. I was the only one going to Finland so I had to go there and supervise what was to be kept in my aunt's shed at her cabin. I had no attachment to old junk, I kept a few school books of mine (Väisälän geometria and a botany book).

When my parents died I had to deal with their junk in Florida, not so much later, my mom had a little junk left. All that is left is photographs and slides.

I also had to haul my own junk around. Stacks of LPs went to record stores for pennies. No sweat. You can buy them on CD! I am not the keeper of band histories of local bands. Off go the tapes to the dumpster.

Want some junk disposed? Pay the plane ticket and I will come and dispose of it.

The rant started from my thoughts that stuff is never worth shooting someone for. Arson is different, as lives are at stake, but an empty house, even there it's still all junk. Insure it.

One of my old friends on the internet, lost him a few years back, was really interesting in his philosophy, similar to mine. He thinks he came to it as their house burned down when he was 10. No lives lost.

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Re: Take my wallet please!

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:28 am

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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:33 am

That you don't need to get violent just to protect some stuff. If the thug starts to threaten a family member and gets physical, that is different.

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Post by cronus » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:40 am

That ignores the instinct of our deep animal nature to protect territory. If you act like a doormat people will tread on you. On the other hand if you behave like a alpha male and do it well then you can get away with murder so long as its on your turf and not the judges. :coffee:
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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:47 am

But the 100 dollars in my wallet is not worth the trouble. It's almost not worth reporting to the police. The thug will meet some other thug and they can fight it out. Neither will live to be 30. There's plenty of thugs to take care of that.

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Post by cronus » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:51 am

Tero wrote:But the 100 dollars in my wallet is not worth the trouble. It's almost not worth reporting to the police. The thug will meet some other thug and they can fight it out. Neither will live to be 30. There's plenty of thugs to take care of that.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:56 am

I'm working on it. I'm too rich to worry about thug genes. The two thugs can fight over it. I will be pissed off if they take my car. But it's insured. There are taxis.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:39 pm

My first wife died fighting a thug for her purse, containing $87.

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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:15 pm

You have to elevate yourself above the crowd living a hand to mouth existence. Your life is worth more than 100 dollars. You can buy it back by giving them the wallet/ purse.

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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:31 pm

Tero wrote:That you don't need to get violent just to protect some stuff. If the thug starts to threaten a family member and gets physical, that is different.
Well, it often goes give me all your stuff or else. And then sometimes they think you are holding out so you get the else anyways. But you don't think simple property theft warrants a human life, and that is a fair moral argument to have. I feel that you do need to break a few bad eggs to ensure safety and civility.
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Post by Blind groper » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:15 pm

As I have pointed out elsewhere, there are plenty of non lethal ways of getting protection. My home has a burglar alarm, and I have three remotes strategically placed around my house. If someone unauthorised enters, I just grab a remote and press the panic button. The house screams at 130 decibels, and no-one, including the intruder, can avoid sticking both hands over their ears and exiting fast. All my neighbors up to a kilometer away immediately know there is a problem. Burglars do not stay to find out what is going to happen.

You can carry portable versions which will, for instance, clip onto a lady's hand bag. She presses a button, and you got the same result. It also calls any police within earshot, and with those gadgets, earshot is a long way.

Lethal action is totally not required.

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Post by piscator » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:03 pm

Tero wrote:That you don't need to get violent just to protect some stuff. If the thug starts to threaten a family member and gets physical, that is different.

Sounds like the thug has already "gotten physical" in some sense, else he wouldn't be in a position to demand your wallet.

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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:37 pm

No, a threat of violence is all that is needed. I will hand over the wallet at that point.

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Post by piscator » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:00 pm

Tero wrote:No, a threat of violence is all that is needed. I will hand over the wallet at that point.

Then give me your fucking wallet, or I'll hit you with this fish. You pathetic sniveling little worm.

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Re: Take my wallet please!

Post by Tero » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:36 pm

Show me the fish first.

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