Nuclear Accident Heroism?
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Nuclear Accident Heroism?
Would you leave or go towards a scene of a nuclear accident if you thought there was a chance you could help by your presence? What criteria do you use to determine if you are expendable, or not, in those circumstances? Age? Family? Locality?
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Yes with some caveats.
There are very few nuclear accidents that are death dealing despite the nonsense spread about.
I've had far more radiation from cancer treatment than the vast bulk of people around any nuclear accident. The "fear" of radiation is the most damaging aspect of it and this post seems to confirm it.
I fail to comprehend any scenario with modern reactors that would not be contained except for a major earthquake.
There are very few nuclear accidents that are death dealing despite the nonsense spread about.
I've had far more radiation from cancer treatment than the vast bulk of people around any nuclear accident. The "fear" of radiation is the most damaging aspect of it and this post seems to confirm it.
I fail to comprehend any scenario with modern reactors that would not be contained except for a major earthquake.
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Here's someone who went back to the scene of a criticality accident ... and then triggered a second criticality accident.
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I would probably just get in the way even if I went in with the intention of helping. Emergency services dont need well meaning untrained amateurs wandering about. So short answer, nope,
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and I've undergone this treatment and am alive and cancer free because of it
Now it's not fun, feels like an internal sunburn, takes about 6 weeks to go away and raises my risk of other cancers slightly. That's 17 treatments each progressively more powerful.Patients receiving radiotherapy spread over about 6 weeks to cure cancer get a daily dose of 2000 mSv to the tumour that kills thecancer cells.- They also receive daily 1000 mSv to many healthy organs andtissue that survive -- more than 20,000 mSv per month.- That is more than 5 X an acute fatal dose (4,000mSv).-
Credible data?
Most people personally know someone who has benefited from suchtreatment.-
How?
Recovery from radiation damage.After each daily treatment healthy organs just have time to repair theradiation damage - and the tumour cells just do not.
and this is done thousands of times a day all over the world.
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I believe there were quite a few Japanese nuclear workers that acted heroically during the last disaster. Of course the corporate big wigs would be no where to be found near the danger zone. Perhaps if the big wigs and their families were forced to work in the highly irradiated zones things would have been different.
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Just wanted to see.macdoc wrote:
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Trouble is it's hard to read at that resolution
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In the Navy we learned to run toward a fire.
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Yeah, damned if you do, damned if you don't.macdoc wrote:Trouble is it's hard to read at that resolution
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Good point...Azathoth wrote:I would probably just get in the way even if I went in with the intention of helping. Emergency services dont need well meaning untrained amateurs wandering about. So short answer, nope,

And good info, macdoc...
Once a years, I get our collection of radioactive sources out of their lead lined box, set them up at the front desk of the physics lab, and perform a series of measurements with the geiger counter (which for some samples, absolutely roars...), and the lads record the data...
Probably the equivalent of a few dental x-rays for me, virtually nothing for the lads...
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