White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:30 pm

http://jezebel.com/5965429/oh-god-pleas ... l-movement

"Mitt Romney was a white dude's white dude, and 62% of white dudes had no doubt that their dude would win. Because, hey, he "looked like a president.""

1. White men who voted for Romney, according to this author, "had no doubt" their "dude" would win."
2. People who voted for Romney only did so because he "looked like a president." Well, at least the "dudes."
Perhaps not so coincidentally, over the course of Obama's first term, what started as a fringe dude subculture has flourished into a thriving online community—the self-described "Manosphere," a safe haven/echo chamber for men who feel discriminated against, ignored, and blamed
Because, while women are entitled to safe havens/echo chambers on the 'net, if men engage in similar activities, it's nefarious.
Potentially false rape charges and "unfair" child support payments deserve equal or greater outrage, they say, alongside actual rapes and centuries of systemic, enforced poverty. And I don't mean that those problems are bullshit—all injustices deserve attention and care—but we're trying to cure cancer over here. You have a stuffy nose.
Men's issues, like being falsely accused of rape (and spending time in jail or prison as a result), is like a "stuffy nose" compared to real problems, like cancer. Men ought to just "man up" and not complain about being falsely accused of rape, because it's not a real problem.

On the one hand -- this is the white manhood of today --
You can see it in insecure young dudes who think big muscles and homophobia will make them "manly."
On the other hand, NOT thinking you need big muscles to be attractive is also wrong --
You can see the anxiety in sulky hand-wringing about old dudes' right to be found attractive no matter what, as in Richard Cohen's absurd column last week: In "North by Northwest" and other movies, Grant - for all his good looks - represented the triumph of the sexual meritocracy - a sex appeal won by experience and savoir-faire, not delts and pecs and other such things that any kid can have.
So -- if you think you need big muscles to be manly, you're wrong, and if you think that it's a good thing that "experience and savoir-faire" rather than delts and pecs are where real attraction should come from, then you're wrong again.

No matter what, "dudes," you're wrong.

And, it's because --
Yeah, yeah, yeah—as though certain men deserve some sort of credit for not being completely entitled sociopathic assholes.
That is, all men are somewhat sociopathic assholes, and only "certain men" are "not completely" sociopathic assholes.
But here's the thing. It's not that your life has been easy, per se, it's just that certain hardships have been absent—hardships that affect other groups in ways that are most likely invisible to you.
Of course, women's hardships are likely invisible to men. But, if men had real hardships, then women would clearly see them. it's not even possible, for this author, to consider that maybe men have traditionally had some hardships that women don't.
You're not personally being blamed for anything,
That's rich... this whole article has slammed every mention of men discussing problems that they may have among themselves on a blogosphere -- any discussion by men of what may be difficult or unfair to them is "boo hoo" and "a stuffy nose compared to a cancer." And, men, except for "certain men" are sociopathic assholes. But, don't be offended, because you're not "personally being blamed for anything." :funny:
Women and people of color and LGBT Americans have the right to complain because we've fucking earned it. And we're kind of busy here, working on a project called "equality." Let me know when you're done flipping out over losing 1% of your privilege. We could use your help.
LOL - well, since you asked so nicely...why wouldn't we want to help? :thinks:

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Post by charlou » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:40 pm

Women and people of color and LGBT Americans have the right to complain because we've fucking earned it.
because we've fucking earned it.
we've fucking earned it.
fucking earned
earned it.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:55 pm

This same Jezebel article linked to this article about "nice guys" which made me laugh --
I mean the sort of Guy who has declared himself to be Nice, and thus deserving of positive (usually sexual) attention from the female of his choice, upon whom he has often projected an elaborate fantasy of perfection and willingness that rarely has anything to do with the subject's actual feelings or desires. When a Nice Guy is romantically rejected by a woman he wants, he lashes out at her, wondering why that dumb cunt won't go out with him. After all, he has been Nice!
http://jezebel.com/5838994/a-field-guid ... ?tag=dudes

I love how these folks can read the minds of men, and have no qualms about declaring how we feel, but they are the first to rail against any man who disagrees with them because men don't know how women feel.

Here, the Nice Guy is not really nice. Guys who bemoan their relationship woes, because they think they've been nice guys and the women they desire have rejected them, they aren't allowed to be upset. They're just dicks who think that by being nice, whatever women they wanted had an obligation to fuck them.

This guy is called a "Predator" --
He offers to listen to you cry and cry about your ex. So you let him. He offers to help you move a heavy dresser to your 4th floor walk up. So you let him. He admits that he cried during The Notebook. So did you. He tries to touch your boobs one night. You don't let him. You bitch.
Umm...honey...the guy who offers to listen to you cry about your ex does so either because he (a) wants to get in your pants, or (b) really cares about you, or (c) both. He offers to move the heavy dresser for (a), (b) or (c) both. So, he thinks that your acceptance of these things is an indicator that you like him back a little. It's not "consent," but frankly, if you have some guy that evidently is interested in you and is offering to provide you with emotional bonding and comfort, and you're accepting his offer to lug heavy furniture around, it ought not be surprising that he tries to kiss you or get to second base. That doesn't mean you have to let him. But, you also have no right to control his reaction to your rejection. If he feels you led him on, then he feels that way. Just as you're entitled to your feelings, he's entitled to his.

And, the example of this "predator" to illustrate the point.....
Duckie from Pretty in Pink
Duckie was a "predator" - because he longed for Molly Ringwald for years, spent time with her, listened to her, cared about her, helped her, and was loyal to her -- even to the point of showing up at the prom just in case Molly Ringwald was there and needed his help -- he's a "predator" because he also wished he had a sexual relationship with her, and when he was rejected for another person he had the temerity to be emotionally effected by it.

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Post by charlou » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:05 pm

Some twisted ideas about relationships there.

Jezebel .. interesting title, given the content.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:09 pm

It seems to me to be yet another example of these ApeLuster types arguing for equality, but espousing antiquated notions of gender roles while doing it.

Here, men ought to be men, and not complain about things that are unfair or about their hardships in life. They ought not have "safe havens" on the interwebz. Real men don't do that. The men that do are crying "boo fucking hoo..." LOL

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Post by Kristie » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:13 pm

Not that I agree, but I take it more as if they think white men have had things easier so they shouldn't have anything to cry about.
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Post by laklak » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:45 am

One of the great joys of advancing age is I really don't give a fuck what people think about me. I'm a happily retired old white dude, no mortgage, a cabin in the mountains, a boat, some guns, a young wife with big tits and enough money to enjoy what's left without working again. That in itself pisses a lot of people off, but I make it my mission to piss off at least one more every day in a more active manner. They can froth and moan and bitch about "white dudes" or "old white guys" or "privilege" or whatever else they want to froth, moan and bitch about and it means nothing to me other than a convenient handle to use when pissing them off. I relish their sophomoric angst, I revel in their self-righteous anger, I get positively giddy if I can make their faces go all red and spittle run down their chin. It's as much jolly good fun to piss off the Hairyleg Brigade as it is to piss off fundamentalists or Prius drivers or Mayan Doomsday freaks. I'm an equal opportunity pisser offer. If I could find a hairy legged feminist 2012er driving a Prius with one of those stupid "Coexist" stickers and a "NO MORE GUNS" T-shirt I'd probably jizz myself in gleeful anticipation.
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Post by JimC » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:58 am

laklak wrote:One of the great joys of advancing age is I really don't give a fuck what people think about me. I'm a happily retired old white dude, no mortgage, a cabin in the mountains, a boat, some guns, a young wife with big tits and enough money to enjoy what's left without working again. That in itself pisses a lot of people off, but I make it my mission to piss off at least one more every day in a more active manner. They can froth and moan and bitch about "white dudes" or "old white guys" or "privilege" or whatever else they want to froth, moan and bitch about and it means nothing to me other than a convenient handle to use when pissing them off. I relish their sophomoric angst, I revel in their self-righteous anger, I get positively giddy if I can make their faces go all red and spittle run down their chin. It's as much jolly good fun to piss off the Hairyleg Brigade as it is to piss off fundamentalists or Prius drivers or Mayan Doomsday freaks. I'm an equal opportunity pisser offer. If I could find a hairy legged feminist 2012er driving a Prius with one of those stupid "Coexist" stickers and a "NO MORE GUNS" T-shirt I'd probably jizz myself in gleeful anticipation.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:11 am

:funny: +1

Lak, I'm coming for your retirement money! Me and bunch of my Marxist mates. And we'll have some of the big tittie action too! :mob:




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Post by laklak » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:16 am

rEvolutionist wrote::funny: +1
And we'll have some of the big tittie action too! :mob:
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Post by Tero » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:25 am

I just don't have any use for white males anymore. Take their guns and pick ups. Give them chewing tobacco beer andfatwomen.

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Post by laklak » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:39 am

Had to give up the chew, it was fucking up my gums.

But what's wrong with Big Leg Women? The more the cushion the better the pushin, I always say. Plus warmth in the winter, shade in the summer, and they make good emergency rations when the Zombie Apocalypse hits.
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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:41 am

Ah. My very important Duckie post was lost when the server crashed.

Oh, well.

I can't decide if I feel passionately enough about it to rewrite it.
But I can tell you one thing-- it's a whole hell of a lot easier to feel passionate for a young Andrew McCarthy ( :swoon: ) than a young Jon Cryer. Even when Andy McC is playing a vapid rich kid. Sorry, Jon.
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Post by Tero » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:55 am

laklak wrote:Had to give up the chew, it was fucking up my gums.

But what's wrong with Big Leg Women? The more the cushion the better the pushin, I always say. Plus warmth in the winter, shade in the summer, and they make good emergency rations when the Zombie Apocalypse hits.
They get old and arthritic and walk wobbly. We supply them big women because there are more of them.

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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:06 am

Yeah fuck us white guys. If it hadn't been for us interfering, the Global Islamic Theocracy would have been taking care of the ladies for centuries which is clearly what they want.
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