Getting other people to help you end your life.

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Getting other people to help you end your life.

Post by Rum » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:59 pm

This is prompted by this news story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19249680 about a guy with so called 'locked in syndrome' who went to our courts to seek to lift the ban on people assisting others to die. He wants doctors to help him without fear of prosecution.The courts said no, in effect sentencing him to a life of hell as he says.

Do you agree with the court or the guy?

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Post by Azathoth » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:21 pm

Stupid judeo-xtian bullshit. We treat dogs better than people in this regard.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:26 pm

^ Dat.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:32 pm

Yeah, it's a serious empathy fail.
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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:37 pm

Its a cowardice fail I fancy.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:41 pm

I'm not sure I follow. I have an idea. But to be sure, who is afraid and what are they are afraid of?
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:42 pm

Azathoth wrote:Stupid judeo-xtian bullshit. We treat dogs better than people in this regard.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:44 pm

I've helped before. Only when I knew it was the right thing to do.
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Post by Twoflower » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:21 pm

I think helping people end their life in these types of situations is the only humane thing to do.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:23 pm

Twoflower wrote:I think helping people end their life in these types of situations is the only humane thing to do.
It was the only think I could do. Not a happy thing, but a good thing.
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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:29 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:I'm not sure I follow. I have an idea. But to be sure, who is afraid and what are they are afraid of?
The first court or government to change the law will face huge resistance here in the UK from some doctors (probably a minority though), the churches and some on the right. They will have to be brave enough to withstand the onslaught which would be considerable.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:46 pm

I'm surprised to hear that Rum. I thought the recent study paid for by Richard Dawkins' foundation showed that most religious people in the UK are religious in name only.

edit: Christian religions anyway
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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:22 pm

I am ambivalent.
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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:49 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:I'm surprised to hear that Rum. I thought the recent study paid for by Richard Dawkins' foundation showed that most religious people in the UK are religious in name only.

edit: Christian religions anyway
We have a Christian Religion 'established' as part of the state structure don't forget. Bishops in in the Upper House can debate and vote on legislation. It is absurd - except weirdly their debates are often a lot more detailed and interesting than those in the Commons. They can't stop legislation passed by the House of Commons but they can delay it and disrupt it as they surely would with this issue.

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Re: Getting other people to help you end your life.

Post by charlou » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:38 am

Frustrating result .. I really feel for this man and his family :(
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Sean Hayden wrote:I'm surprised to hear that Rum. I thought the recent study paid for by Richard Dawkins' foundation showed that most religious people in the UK are religious in name only.

edit: Christian religions anyway
We have a Christian Religion 'established' as part of the state structure don't forget. Bishops in in the Upper House can debate and vote on legislation. It is absurd - except weirdly their debates are often a lot more detailed and interesting than those in the Commons. They can't stop legislation passed by the House of Commons but they can delay it and disrupt it as they surely would with this issue.
And there's the cultural/encultured influence in a society that survives and lingers ..

Audley .. ambivalent? Must say I'm somewhat surprised and perhaps a tad disappointed that you don't have a strong opinion on this ... Disappointed insofaras I generally appreciate reading your thoughts on a topic whenever you share them.
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