Life Insurance: How does this work?
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Life Insurance: How does this work?
Let's say a person has a policy and pays his/her premiums when due, then one day s/he is dead--but death occurred within the covered policy period, but the body isn't found until after the covered policy period, and policies haven't been paid since because the policy holder was/is dead.
Does the insurance company pay out?
Does the insurance company pay out?
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Are you.... planning something? 

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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1084788Bella Fortuna wrote:Are you.... planning something?


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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
As I understand it there is a period, specified in the policy, which starts when a person MIGHT be dead, and goes for a time thereafter. The policies I've had specify that no premiums will be required if I'm missing and MIGHT be dead. (Simply missing doesn't count, the policies can lapse if premiums are not paid in that case.) YMMV
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We have had four suicides and one attempt this winter so far. An unusually high number. One of these involved the parent of a client. The client has had to pitch in to help pay funeral expenses.
My own life insurance states that it would be void in cases of suicide and acts of war. Something like that.
My own life insurance states that it would be void in cases of suicide and acts of war. Something like that.
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Sorry people. I didn't want to cause anyone to worry.
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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
Schrodinger's insurance policyGawdzilla wrote:The policies I've had specify that no premiums will be required if I'm missing and MIGHT be dead.

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If I'm missing they don't know if I'm dead. If I'm definitely dead, I'm not missing.Faithfree wrote:Schrodinger's insurance policyGawdzilla wrote:The policies I've had specify that no premiums will be required if I'm missing and MIGHT be dead.

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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
It happens around here often that people go for a one way walk into the wilderness and aren't found for a long time. The last guy was missing for two weeks, others for years.
I wouldn't expect insurance to pay out if there isn't confirmation of death.
But if the body isn't found for months to years, are they still obligated to pay out if the policy was in affect at the time of death? Some of these would be accidents.
I wouldn't expect insurance to pay out if there isn't confirmation of death.
But if the body isn't found for months to years, are they still obligated to pay out if the policy was in affect at the time of death? Some of these would be accidents.
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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
They should pay out after seven years if the family goes through the legal maze to have them declared dead. YMMVGallstones wrote:It happens around here often that people go for a one way walk into the wilderness and aren't found for a long time. The last guy was missing for two weeks, others for years.
I wouldn't expect insurance to pay out if there isn't confirmation of death.
But if the body isn't found for months to years, are they still obligated to pay out if the policy was in affect at the time of death? Some of these would be accidents.
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Yes, generally, although I have a tickle of a memory of a case of a person lost at sea and not declared dead for seven years where the insurance company tried to get out of paying because the premiums hadn't been paid in the intervening seven years. I also have a tickle of a memory that the courts ruled in favor of the heirs.Gallstones wrote:Let's say a person has a policy and pays his/her premiums when due, then one day s/he is dead--but death occurred within the covered policy period, but the body isn't found until after the covered policy period, and policies haven't been paid since because the policy holder was/is dead.
Does the insurance company pay out?
Why? Are you planning to get lost in the woods and kill yourself?
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Re: Life Insurance: How does this work?
I worked for State Farm for a few years, and we got "bulletins" on a variety of insurance related issues via email. The insurance info I quoted comes from reading these bulletins, most often court rulings on the issues.
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Just so you know, I don't believe that suicide exclusions are legal any longer. They usually only are legal for a short period right after the policy has been taken out, like a year at most. This is because the courts have ruled that suicidal ideology is an illness, and that if the person was not suicidal at the time they took out the policy, that the company cannot deny the claim because they later developed an illness that caused them to take their own life, as that is an unpredictable event. The suicide exclusion is only applicable in situations where it constitutes fraud on the insurer because the person intended to commit suicide and bought the policy while having that intention.Gallstones wrote:We have had four suicides and one attempt this winter so far. An unusually high number. One of these involved the parent of a client. The client has had to pitch in to help pay funeral expenses.
My own life insurance states that it would be void in cases of suicide and acts of war. Something like that.
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It was just a perfect storm moment, multiple factors coming together at the same time fucking with my friable sanity.
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Been there, thought about that. Didn't buy the t-shirt, tho. Anyway,Gallstones wrote:It was just a perfect storm moment, multiple factors coming together at the same time fucking with my friable sanity.

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