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Post by Lozzer » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:29 pm

Oh look what it is, another suicide thread! Every forum should have at least one.

To be really rather depressive, and ego-maniacal, I need your advice (again). I'm not going to rant about how awful my life is, because in comparison with many other people, I live quite a nice life. Another reason for this, is that I don't particularly want anyone to reassure me about how silly suicide is--because that would be to miss the point completely.

As many of you are liberal leaning and rational people, I don't think I'm too far off the mark to say many of you are pro-euthanasia for those who wish to die. In the context of a terminally ill person who wants to die, none of us would dare to devalue the process of self-termination by calling it suicide. Suicide is not something I want to do, for the benefit of my future self, I would like to terminate myself.

I've been researching the best way to commit suicide and the results weren't that promising (more often than not, a majority of 'suicide' websites are satirical.)
The most widely used method of self-termination is hanging one self. This isn't something I particularly want to do--although it has a good success rate, I don't really want to choke myself to death). Overdosing is another good method, but if dosage isn't enough, then one will have severe internal damage for the rest of his life.

Do i want to commit 'suicide' for the attention? Oh yes, most certainly. I love the idea of people having sympathy for me once in their lives. The idea of them prostrating themselves onto my coffin gives me immense satisfaction. But this alone isn't the sole reason, nor the most tempting.
I'm not fed up with any temporal affliction such as family drama etc. No, the problem lies in my own vessel. I don't want emotions, thoughts and conundrums.
To argue that happiness and joy (among other emotions) are worth living for, is a terrible way of persuasion. Everything is temporary, but the more negative short euphorias visit so much more often.

What I ask is this, is there any method of self-termination which can work with certainty but with the least pain possible? If that is too much to ask, I can understand. Rationality would lead you to not encourage me, although I did say only some of you are rational.
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Re: Self-termination

Post by Animavore » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Drop about 4 -5 sleeping pills. Then get a plastic bag and put it over your head fixing it to your neck with masking tape.
Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation. You'll slip into a coma before you die :tup:

EDIT: Of course, you'll be fast asleep long before then.
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Post by Lozzer » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:40 pm

Animavore wrote:Drop about 4 -5 sleeping pills. Then get a plastic bag and put it over your head fixing it to your neck with masking tape.
Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation. You'll slip into a coma before you die :tup:

EDIT: Of course, you'll be fast asleep long before then.

Pleasant :lol:

No, sleeping-pills have to be prescribed so that's kind of difficult.
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Re: Self-termination

Post by Thinking Aloud » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:42 pm

Being hit by a fast moving, heavy vehicle, such as a train, is likely to be quick and painless for the "jumper", but not necessarily for anyone else affected - the driver, passengers, clean-up crew, relatives of the driver... (My sister had a "jumper" while she was still in training. It's a selfish way to go.)

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Re: Self-termination

Post by Animavore » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:49 pm

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Animavore wrote:Drop about 4 -5 sleeping pills. Then get a plastic bag and put it over your head fixing it to your neck with masking tape.
Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation. You'll slip into a coma before you die :tup:

EDIT: Of course, you'll be fast asleep long before then.

Pleasant :lol:

No, sleeping-pills have to be prescribed so that's kind of difficult.
My Kung-fu master, an ex-marine and all round expert in killing, suggested that as the most painless way to go. Besides obviously cyanide which is hard to come by.
There is also a formula you can make with household items which will create cyanide. You can leave a bowl full of the concoction in your room as you sleep and cover any ventilation so the fumes fill your room. You'll be quite dead by the morning.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:06 pm

A heroin overdose. Smack is easy enough to get hold of if you know a few druggies. If you are not a user, a quite modest dose would be fatal, especially intravenous. From what I have heard from junkies that have almost OD'd, there is no pain at all, you just forget to breathe and sink into a coma.
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Re: Self-termination

Post by CJ » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:00 pm

Lozzer wrote:What I ask is this, is there any method of self-termination which can work with certainty but with the least pain possible? If that is too much to ask, I can understand. Rationality would lead you to not encourage me, although I did say only some of you are rational.
As I have actively considered suicide on occasion I have put considerably thought into how I would do away with myself. I wanted something painless, quick but required a lot of planning and thought time so I could back out of it if I wanted to right up to a couple of seconds before the moment of death. The most obvious solution is to jump off of a very tall structure. However this causes a few problems, I'm scared of heights so probably couldn't get close enough to the edge to do it (yes I know that's funny!) and also the idea of changing my mind while falling puts me off and finally the lack of an absolute guarantee of death. So what better to do? A train going at 60mph covers 8 inches (the length of one's skull) in 1/1,300th of a second. That's a lot faster than nerve impulses can cover the same distance so you wouldn't even be aware you had been hit. You have to plan placing your head on a rail track quite carefully, it needs to be at night so the driver doesn't see you. You can role away from the train in a second or so if you change your mind. If you face away from the oncoming train you don't even need to know the exact 'when' it will happen. Probability of instant death, very high.

It's odd how knowing how you can end your life, and thus have ultimate control over it, is quite comforting in times of extreme stress. One always has an escape route from the situation. Having a means to end one's life is one thing, ending it is another thing entirely and ending it while young is just plain stupid and that is why I don't mind telling Lozzer this as he is far from stupid.

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Re: Self-termination

Post by CJ » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:06 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:Being hit by a fast moving, heavy vehicle, such as a train, is likely to be quick and painless for the "jumper", but not necessarily for anyone else affected - the driver, passengers, clean-up crew, relatives of the driver... (My sister had a "jumper" while she was still in training. It's a selfish way to go.)
I agree it's a selfish way to go, but suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness so why bother about this element of it? A person who commits suicide out of depression isn't really sane at all.

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:36 pm

Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.

Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer. :dono:

Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:15 pm

Major Eyeswater wrote:Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer. :dono:
In the US it's not legal because it has been deemed unsafe for humans.
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Post by Mallardz » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:37 pm

Suicide is a sin and you may go to hell as a consequence of suicide.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:40 pm

Even Liam wrote:Suicide is a sin and you may go to hell as a consequence of suicide.
How would he get to Indiana from there? :think: :dono:
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:43 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Major Eyeswater wrote:Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer. :dono:
In the US it's not legal because it has been deemed unsafe for humans.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:46 pm

Major Eyeswater wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Major Eyeswater wrote:Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer. :dono:
In the US it's not legal because it has been deemed unsafe for humans.

You're shittin' me, right? :what:
Kind of. There was a hiatus in the lethal injection executions because the FDA hadn't approved the poisons for human consumption. Bureaucrat, the long way to spell idiot.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:59 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Major Eyeswater wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Major Eyeswater wrote:Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer. :dono:
In the US it's not legal because it has been deemed unsafe for humans.

You're shittin' me, right? :what:
Kind of. There was a hiatus in the lethal injection executions because the FDA hadn't approved the poisons for human consumption. Bureaucrat, the long way to spell idiot.
I know there has been quite a lot of debate as to whether lethal injection (as applied in the US) is humane. I don't really like reading about it as I find the subject upsetting.
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