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Intelligent idiots

Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:44 am

I've met quite a few intelligent idiots in my time. Some of them are dead now. So what special ingredient makes the full picture if intelligence isn't enough? Why do some less intelligent people occupy the right choices and some really smart people join The Tea Party? :smoke:
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:48 am

Crumple wrote:Why do some less intelligent people occupy the right choices and some really smart people join The Tea Party? :smoke:
Because both the right and the Tea Party have pretty reasonable positions. The real question is why any intelligent people believe leftist propaganda.

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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:16 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Crumple wrote:Why do some less intelligent people occupy the right choices and some really smart people join The Tea Party? :smoke:
Because both the right and the Tea Party have pretty reasonable positions. The real question is why any intelligent people believe leftist propaganda.
This is not precisely what I mean. There many be no reasonable positions, the US is bankrupt and the dollar collapse is coming, and it is a question then of deciding which side holds the more dangerous rhetoric? or is more deceitful in it's verbage?
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:26 am

Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:41 am

Audley Strange wrote:Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
That's a good starting position, similar to my own. :smoke:
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Exi5tentialist » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:01 am

Audley Strange wrote:Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
You're unlikely to get cannibals in a forest. Forests are places of abundance, usually there is no reason for a species to start eating its own kind. Cannibals are usually found in places with scarce and even decreasing resources, like small islands from which forests have been cleared over time, when they start turning to new and inventive ways to source the protein they need.

Use your head.

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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:03 am

You use yours, I never said they live in the forest. If you must be a smart arse, try and be smart.
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:12 am

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
You're unlikely to get cannibals in a forest. Forests are places of abundance, usually there is no reason for a species to start eating its own kind. Cannibals are usually found in places with scarce and even decreasing resources, like small islands from which forests have been cleared over time, when they start turning to new and inventive ways to source the protein they need.

Use your head.
No, cannabalism is far more complicated. Not found in other species half as much as human beings. More to do with cognition than scarcity. Will be found where there is inter-tribal conflict and a need to prevent disease or much more avoiding a burial/resting place for the dead, a focus for feelings of revenge by adjacent tribes....argue with me...there are bones indicating cannabalism all over Europe....maybe they became attatched to the taste as well, love a bacon butty with some mushrooms/onions myself. :smoke:
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:32 am

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
You're unlikely to get cannibals in a forest. Forests are places of abundance, usually there is no reason for a species to start eating its own kind. Cannibals are usually found in places with scarce and even decreasing resources, like small islands from which forests have been cleared over time, when they start turning to new and inventive ways to source the protein they need.

Use your head.
Beside what crumple said, can you then explain why the cultures with cannibalistic practices that have been documented were mostly found in jungle environments (say, Tupinamba and other Amazonian man eaters) or at least places where food was abundant and easy to grow (Aztec and generally mesoAmerican ritual anthropophagy)
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by JimC » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:20 am

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Being able to parrot lofty concepts found in books and to elaborate on them might be useful in academia, not so useful in a forest with cannibals chasing you. So, I'd say intelligence, especially specification, is entirely subject to context.
You're unlikely to get cannibals in a forest. Forests are places of abundance, usually there is no reason for a species to start eating its own kind. Cannibals are usually found in places with scarce and even decreasing resources, like small islands from which forests have been cleared over time, when they start turning to new and inventive ways to source the protein they need.

Use your head.
Incorrect.

Cannibalism in PNG (a very forested island), for example, was a ritualised way of celebrating a win in a local tribal struggle, or even eating your local tribal heroes when they died, to partake of their essence...

Pity about the nasty neurological diseases that ensue after slurping up the brains...

As for using your head, why not use someone else's, particularly if you can shrink it...
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:32 am

The body is considered the property of relatives in some societies (partly true in ours) so someone else eating it would be considered theft
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Exi5tentialist » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:30 pm

Audley Strange wrote:You use yours, I never said they live in the forest. If you must be a smart arse, try and be smart.
Sorry, I didn't realise they were visiting cannibals. Air fares are much lower than they used to be. Sorry for not factoring that in. My bad.

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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:37 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:You use yours, I never said they live in the forest. If you must be a smart arse, try and be smart.
Sorry, I didn't realise they were visiting cannibals. Air fares are much lower than they used to be. Sorry for not factoring that in. My bad.
No problem. That's the good thing about tossed off hypotheticals, they are fluid. I could have been speaking of ritiualistic cannibals who eat their enemies to gain their power, a bunch of psycho flesh eaters hired by a rich deviant to chase and eat people for their own amusement, hell I could have even been speaking about catholics who truly believe in the miracle of transubstantiation.
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:38 pm

We are not gods, theophagy is not cannibalism.
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Re: Intelligent idiots

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:41 pm

Apparently we are made in the Space Chimp's image. So I'll stick with it being cannibalism.
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