How to get raped.

[Cunt]

Hi folks, I would like to present an idea for stealing. I would like it stolen because I am too cowardly to lead it myself. Also, I lack some of the requisite skills.

The idea is a site, probably a wiki, which teaches people how to get raped.

We have endless resources on how to avoid getting raped, or how to deal with being a survivor of sexual assault, but little is available (or maybe it just isn't easy to find) teaching how to conduct ones-self while the rape is happening.

I would like to collect information, by jurisdiction, about how to collect evidence, observe effectively, and what when and how to report in order to increase the chances that you (the victim) will have satisfaction from the justice system.

Of course the advice would be quite different in Canada compared to, say, Somalia, but there could be relevant advice for each just the same. Also, a victims goals, whether prosecution or self-preservation, might change which advice would be relevant.

To conclude, I think it requires plain language (hence the proposed title) or even vulgar language. I also think there would be a lot of people pissed about collecting and sharing this kind of information. (for good and bad reasons)

What I would like is for a web-designer to take this on and create it. I am too scared to be the person behind it. (I think it would take a bit of a leader for awhile, until it got some momentum)

[Animavore]

Interesting concept and one that deserves serious consideration.

[Robert_S]

Hey fella, want to come up to my elevator for a cuppa coffee?

[charlou]

Interesting concept and one that deserves serious consideration.

Might get more serious consideration if the title didn't frame the idea so flippantly.

[Cunt]

Interesting concept and one that deserves serious consideration.

Might get more serious consideration if the title didn't frame the idea so flippantly.

You are probably right, but how to frame it? I did mean to be serious, if a bit vulgar.

PC language could really obscure the purpose here, don't you think?

[charlou]

Interesting concept and one that deserves serious consideration.

Might get more serious consideration if the title didn't frame the idea so flippantly.

You are probably right, but how to frame it? I did mean to be serious, if a bit vulgar.

PC language could really obscure the purpose here, don't you think?

Is your aim is to thumb your nose at political correctness? I know you like to do that, but if this is just another platform on which to do that, it seems exploitative to me, and that you're mocking the platform itself.


I have my own views on how rape is handled, how our culture makes it more psychologically devastating than it might otherwise be ... but I have no idea where you're coming from, except that you seem to want to shove your way into it to make a point about PCness?

[Cunt]

Interesting concept and one that deserves serious consideration.

Might get more serious consideration if the title didn't frame the idea so flippantly.

You are probably right, but how to frame it? I did mean to be serious, if a bit vulgar.

PC language could really obscure the purpose here, don't you think?

Is your aim is to thumb your nose at political correctness? I know you like to do that, but if this is just another platform on which to do that, it seems exploitative to me, and that you're mocking the platform itself.

Nope. All practicality here, just my usual shit delivery (thanks for noticing)

I sneer at much of what is PC around this issue, but I am honestly thinking of my daughters when I think of this, charlou.

And notice, I am not trying to exploit, but rather to bravely cower in obscurity while someone who works hard gets the kudos for doing it.

Seriously, I am suggesting an emergency plan for sexual assault. Language, platform (I suggest a wiki/webpage) and everything are open...for instance, if you understood and wanted to implement this idea, I would cheerfully celebrate your efforts and contribute - without asking for control of some kind.

I don't see how that would be exploitative of me.

I have my own views on how rape is handled, how our culture makes it more psychologically devastating than it might otherwise be ...

Yup, me too. I think it is reflected in our cultural outrage at child genital mutilation - depending on the sex of the victim.
But this is about practical advice to alleviate suffering in the messy, not nearly ideal world.

but I have no idea where you're coming from, except that you seem to want to shove your way into it to make a point about PCness?

No shoving here, charlou. Unless you take up the idea and want me to shove something.

Can you paraphrase what it is that I want? Remember that I am too cowardly to own this idea, and that I would gladly help anyone else do it. The core idea, I mean. My description has been misunderstood many times, and maybe that sort of thing would help...

[Kristie]

I'm trying to figure out if this is aiming at tips for getting someone to rape you, like walking alone at night wearing a revealing outfit, or if it's more in the direction of how to deal with being raped.


Edit to add* not that I think someone walking alone at night in a revealing outfit is asking to get raped...

[Cunt]

Funny shit, Kristie
No, it's about tips to use when all else has failed, and you find yourself being raped. This is example advice, so might well be terrible (hence my suggestion of a 'wiki' format):
(if prosecution is the goal)
Observe key details and memorize
Collect physical evidence (scratching for DNA samples, as a cartoon example)
Report correctly (when to call police, what to say

Anyway, I think the content, since it would grow from a good collection of contributors, could become quite rich and useful. If successful, I mean. Each country/jurisdiction could have subtle differences in law which might change the way one would report or pursue the matter.

Think of it this way - if you knew beforehand that you were very likely to be raped, what would you do to assure your priorities (such as safety, revenge, prosecution) are met? (oh fuck I hope I asked that right...) Now share that with all your neighbours!

[Evabot]

never mind.

[mistermack]

How to get justice after rape would be a better title.
I don't think there's enough material for a website. It's mostly common sense, and you would think that you could cover it in one page.

The first thing, every time, before all others, would be to report it straight away.
I can see why some people don't, because of shock and trauma, and alcohol, and not being prepared.
But the best thing you could possibly do is to think about that decision before it ever happens, and to make a firm choice to report it straight away, so that you don't have to work out what to do when the worst happens, and you are too upset to think clearly.

That would be the number-one best weapon, and would dwarf the importance of anything else you could do.

The second thing that I would recommend is to make no effort at all to keep calm when reporting it. Let it all hang out, get hysterical, even if you are feeling numb.
It would be bound to impress a jury.

After that, I would suggest pressing record on your mobile phone, or mp3 player, or camera. Even a sound recording would be good evidence.

Pulling out hair and scratching might be a good idea to get dna, but it's a lot to ask, as some people get paralysed by fear at the time. It could be risky too. You could of course pull out your own hair, and hit yourself to cause bruises and a nosebleed, after the rapist has left, to add signs of violence, and make it harder for the rapist to claim consent.
Just make sure that it's not obvious, or you would destroy your own case.

[charlou]

You could of course pull out your own hair, and hit yourself to cause bruises and a nosebleed, after the rapist has left, to add signs of violence, and make it harder for the rapist to claim consent.
Just make sure that it's not obvious, or you would destroy your own case.

WTF?




I need sleep.

[mistermack]

You could of course pull out your own hair, and hit yourself to cause bruises and a nosebleed, after the rapist has left, to add signs of violence, and make it harder for the rapist to claim consent.
Just make sure that it's not obvious, or you would destroy your own case.

WTF?

I need sleep.

I mean it. Why play fair with a rapist?

[Kristie]

Funny shit, Kristie

Well, I never know with you! I was trying not to assume!

[Santa_Claus]

Wear a short skirt (anything above the ankle) - and walk into a mosque.