The peculiar business of being human

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The peculiar business of being human

Post by Rum » Fri May 15, 2009 4:42 pm

I have put this in the atheism and religion section, though I am not sure it actually belongs here. Never mind.

Does the sheer bizarre strangeness of being human ever enter your mind? Today I had a sudden insight into it and it occurred to me that everything is contingent, contextual, human centred (from our perspective) and actually virtual in that we project all our meaning onto the world.

Before people understood light there were theories that it was generated in the eye and went out to the world to see it. It seems to me that this is exactly what the mind does. There is no 'chairness' just the idea of a chaor projected onto some wood, for example.

And this is just one small example of peculiarness.

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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Dasein » Fri May 15, 2009 4:45 pm

I am so reminded of this gem from Philosophy 101:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri May 15, 2009 4:52 pm

You are correct Rumertron. We certainly do impose our human-centric view upon the world, often without any justification. The idea of things being 'for' something, especially other animals, is a huge part of our collective psyche.

btw, I am moving this to the General Discussion, inc. Philosophy section, as it is more philosophy than religion IMO.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Rum » Fri May 15, 2009 5:12 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:You are correct Rumertron. We certainly do impose our human-centric view upon the world, often without any justification. The idea of things being 'for' something, especially other animals, is a huge part of our collective psyche.

btw, I am moving this to the General Discussion, inc. Philosophy section, as it is more philosophy than religion IMO.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri May 15, 2009 5:16 pm

Rumertron wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:You are correct Rumertron. We certainly do impose our human-centric view upon the world, often without any justification. The idea of things being 'for' something, especially other animals, is a huge part of our collective psyche.

btw, I am moving this to the General Discussion, inc. Philosophy section, as it is more philosophy than religion IMO.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Pappa » Fri May 15, 2009 11:08 pm

Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 16, 2009 12:59 am

Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by cowiz » Sat May 16, 2009 1:00 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
Must be god then. That's settled it.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2009 1:02 am

Not as peculiar as being a testicle.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Pappa » Sat May 16, 2009 1:05 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
That was always my favourite philosophical question... even better when it is put so starkly...

"Why is there anything at all?".

As you said really, there never will be an answer.
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2009 1:08 am

Pappa wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
That was always my favourite philosophical question... even better when it is put so starkly...

"Why is there anything at all?".

As you said really, there never will be an answer.

Why wouldn't there be? :dono:
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Pappa » Sat May 16, 2009 1:21 am

Animavore wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
That was always my favourite philosophical question... even better when it is put so starkly...

"Why is there anything at all?".

As you said really, there never will be an answer.

Why wouldn't there be? :dono:
An answer?

Can you imagine any conceivable answer to the ultimate Why?
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by cowiz » Sat May 16, 2009 1:21 am

Pappa wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Pappa wrote:Just being a living entity is weird enough (in the grand scheme of things). How odd is it to be alive and sentient in a universe of physical matter and energy?
Even odder that there is anything at all. The most fundamental question of philosophy - and the most pointless to actually ask.
That was always my favourite philosophical question... even better when it is put so starkly...

"Why is there anything at all?".

As you said really, there never will be an answer.

Why wouldn't there be? :dono:
An answer?

Can you imagine any conceivable answer to the ultimate Why?
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2009 1:25 am

Why not?
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Re: The peculiar business of being human

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2009 1:27 am

On the serious side.

I'm with Buddha when it comes to this question.
Don't bother with the question why? It can drive a man insane. There may not be a why?
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