"Unborn Child"

[Trolldor]

Why are people so adverse to the term? In particular, those that support abortion seem incredibly hesitant to acknowledge that you are, in fact, killing a human.

[Elessarina]

isn't it just a parasite?

[Animavore]

Does anyone really support abortion?
I think most people would rather it didn't happen. Even those who are pro-choice.

[Feck]

It should be legal to abort children right up to to age of 16

[Trolldor]

Does anyone really support abortion?
I think most people would rather it didn't happen. Even those who are pro-choice.

I support abortion. Both the practice and the choice. That I would rather people didn't do it has absolutely no bearing on my support for it as a medical procedure.

[DRSB]

I've wondered why astrology focuses on the moment of birth only when the unborn child is a human being already with its own heart and brain, etc.

[Animavore]

Does anyone really support abortion?
I think most people would rather it didn't happen. Even those who are pro-choice.

I support abortion. Both the practice and the choice. That I would rather people didn't do it has absolutely no bearing on my support for it as a medical procedure.

You seem to use words differently to how I would. For me, to support abortion, means to be the type of person that goes around recommending it to everyone. Like supporting circumcision would mean being a positive advocate who makes spurious claims about its benefits.
I support the choice and having the laws changed to legalise it. I don't think this is the same as supporting abortion. What I do support is safe sex (which doesn't need spurious claims to promote it, though it does to go against it to support abstinence, for instance).

[Trolldor]

Well, if you support it being an available medical procedure, you support abortion. If you were to run around suggesting everyone do it you would be advocating abortion.

[Animavore]

No. I tolerate abortion. I don't support it. Put it this way, if I had a daughter and she got pregnant I would try to convince her to have it, although I would be accepting if she didn't.

[mistermack]

I think that the problem is that a lot of people demand every question to be viewed as black or white, or yes or no, when most questions are impossible to treat that way.
Nothing could be less black and white than abortion.
Only the most extreme dogmatist could find something wrong with aborting an egg that had just divided for the first time. ( Like the pope, and fundamentalist religionists ).
Equally only the most rabid "rights" activist could support aborting a pregnancy that had only days to go.
So if you're not rabid, you are forced to draw a blurry line somewhere between the two.
It's equally blurry when it comes to the reasons for abortion, like rape, or health of the mother, or health of the fetus, or couldn't-care-less abortions just viewed as a backup to slapdash birth control.
So abortion will always be subject to opinion and debate, and will never be black and white, unless the extremists get to power.
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[RuleBritannia]

Well, if you support it being an available medical procedure, you support abortion. If you were to run around suggesting everyone do it you would be advocating abortion.

I think people have the right to be religious, doesn't mean I support religion.

[Tero]

Why are people so adverse to the term? In particular, those that support abortion seem incredibly hesitant to acknowledge that you are, in fact, killing a human.

Is there a shortage of humans? We could export these tiny prohumans where they are short of them.

[klr]

I think that the problem is that a lot of people demand every question to be viewed as black or white, or yes or no, when most questions are impossible to treat that way.
Nothing could be less black and white than abortion.
Only the most extreme dogmatist could find something wrong with aborting an egg that had just divided for the first time. ( Like the pope, and fundamentalist religionists ).
Equally only the most rabid "rights" activist could support aborting a pregnancy that had only days to go.
So if you're not rabid, you are forced to draw a blurry line somewhere between the two.
It's equally blurry when it comes to the reasons for abortion, like rape, or health of the mother, or health of the fetus, or couldn't-care-less abortions just viewed as a backup to slapdash birth control.
So abortion will always be subject to opinion and debate, and will never be black and white, unless the extremists get to power.
.

- on all points ...

[kiki5711]

It should be legal to abort children right up to to age of 16

[Horwood Beer-Master]

Why are people so adverse to the term? In particular, those that support abortion seem incredibly hesitant to acknowledge that you are, in fact, killing a human.

You're not killing a human consciousness.