Should apes be granted personhood?

Should apes be granted personhood?

Yes
2
13%
No
8
53%
Don't know
1
7%
Don't care
1
7%
Cheese
2
13%
Le Bacon
1
7%
 
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Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:42 pm

Should apes be granted personhood and the legal rights that this would confer?
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by cowiz » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:44 pm

Yes
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by devogue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:45 pm

No.

Because then they would be freed from the Belfast Zoo and they're the only things worth seeing.

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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by cowiz » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:46 pm

devogue wrote:No.

Because then they would be freed from the Belfast Zoo and they're the only things worth seeing.
You could take their place
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:48 pm

To what purpose or extent?
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by kiki5711 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:50 pm

did they ask for it?

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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by devogue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:51 pm

pawiz wrote:
devogue wrote:No.

Because then they would be freed from the Belfast Zoo and they're the only things worth seeing.
You could take their place
I might get cold.

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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by cowiz » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:52 pm

devogue wrote:
pawiz wrote:
devogue wrote:No.

Because then they would be freed from the Belfast Zoo and they're the only things worth seeing.
You could take their place
I might get cold.
Think of the free bananas! There's a solution to every problem.
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:53 pm

Jerry Was A Man, Robert A. Heinlein.
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by devogue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:53 pm

pawiz wrote:
devogue wrote:
pawiz wrote:
devogue wrote:No.

Because then they would be freed from the Belfast Zoo and they're the only things worth seeing.
You could take their place
I might get cold.
Think of the free bananas! There's a solution to every problem.
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:55 pm

pawiz wrote:Think of the free bananas! There's a solution to every problem.
But is there a problem for every solution? :think:
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:21 pm

Why apes? It seems to me certain dolphins would be ahead of them in line, given what we know of their relative intelligence.

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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:22 pm

Warren Dew wrote:Why apes? It seems to me certain dolphins would be ahead of them in line, given what we know of their relative intelligence.
Cephalopods as well.
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:38 pm

Warren Dew wrote:Why apes? It seems to me certain dolphins would be ahead of them in line, given what we know of their relative intelligence.
Well, I was going to mention that in the OP, but I assumed it would come up in the thread anyway. The main reason I specified apes is that they are the only group of animals who have so far had any progress in this area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_personhood
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Re: Should apes be granted personhood?

Post by devogue » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:40 pm

Warren Dew wrote:Why apes? It seems to me certain dolphins would be ahead of them in line, given what we know of their relative intelligence.
If push came to shove, I'd rather have a pint with an ape than a dolphin.

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