Seraph wrote:It's an example of abstract and symbolic thinking. Humans are capable of it on that level - even though they frequently come to the wrong conclusion. Chimpanzees don't rise to the level that would give them the opportunity to make those kind of mistake
Yes, but that thinking doesn't spring out of thin air. It's a result of years of education, and thousands of years of knowledge passed down.
Humans who don't get the benefit of that don't display much in the way of abstract and symbolic thinking. Look at the rare cases of humans raised by animals. They don't do a lot of symbolic thinking, they usually bark like a dog and beg for scraps. And they don't stand out as superior to the animals that raised them.
You unfortunately can't give a chimpanzee a human upbringing, because their brains are not adapted for language.
That's why I mentioned a human raised by chimpanzees, it would be the only way to realistically compare mental abilities, without giving the human the advantage of education.
Where ants come into it, I do not know.
Anyway, I don't see any future in creating a thread out of one flippant remark. It wasn't my own idea anyway, many researchers who study apes argue that they should be counted as a sub-species.
Or actually, they argue that we are the subspecies, of chimpanzees.
And when I wrote of an overlap, I was of course referring to the extreme ends of the spectrum, and not abstract and symbolic thinking, but the ability to make a good decision at a vital time.
In other words, wisdom, which some chimps can posess large chunks of, and some humans can have very little of. You would have to read people like Jane Goodall to see what that's all about.