rEvolutionist wrote:Are you having a sook again?

rEvolutionist wrote:Are you having a sook again?
If he does that then who is going to make his clothes?Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
I doubt Trump could do that anyway. Not without breaking world trade agreements.rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Drumpf is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
Americans? I mean, if he does "that" (bring manufacturing back to the US) then "that" would be brought back to the US....Animavore wrote:If he does that then who is going to make his clothes?Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
Doesn't explain why he isn't already doing it. He profits from the foreign labour he's criticising.Forty Two wrote:Americans? I mean, if he does "that" (bring manufacturing back to the US) then "that" would be brought back to the US....Animavore wrote:If he does that then who is going to make his clothes?Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
Well, in a way it is. Because if you make Mexico improve it's working conditions and pay high wages, then you make manufacturing there more expensive. As that happens, the incentive to move there goes down.rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Trump is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
Trade agreements aren't broken by being renegotiated, or by countries exiting them. No country is forever bound to a treaty. Countries are bound until they withdraw.Animavore wrote:I doubt Trump could do that anyway. Not without breaking world trade agreements.rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Drumpf is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
Because he's a liar.Forty Two wrote:Well, in a way it is. Because if you make Mexico improve it's working conditions and pay high wages, then you make manufacturing there more expensive. As that happens, the incentive to move there goes down.rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Trump is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
So, the intent may be, from the "fair trade" hippies, to help the poor in Mexico and China, and Trump's intent may be to help the "poor" here in the US by bringing/keeping jobs here for them -- that doesn't make the economic effects different.
What makes you doubt Trump giving a fuck about restoring American manufacturing? It's been the cornerstone of his campaign. He sees American business in the US, employing American citizens and legal residents, as good for the United States. What's doubtful about that?
The fact that he sends jobs for his own businesses abroad.Forty Two wrote: What's doubtful about that?
she's as bad as the thatch, that's for sure, even if she's slightly milder mannered.rEvolutionist wrote:She's an alpha.
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