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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 04, 2016 1:05 pm

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Post by Forty Two » Wed May 04, 2016 1:08 pm

So, Cruz is out. God must be disappointed that his candidate quit. Did God want him to quit, or did Cruz lose faith and disobey God? Let's wait and see who gets smitten....

Reince Priebus came out and called Trump the presumptive nominee and called on Republicans to support him.

So, the idea of a brokered convention and a "never Trump" seems to have been a bluff.

The conventional wisdom is now going to be the Trump has no chance against Hillary, who is just too strong to beat. When she's done losing states to Bernie Sanders, we'll see how that holds up.
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Post by cronus » Wed May 04, 2016 1:13 pm

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Post by Animavore » Wed May 04, 2016 1:31 pm

Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 04, 2016 1:36 pm

That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Trump is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 04, 2016 1:39 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Drumpf is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
I doubt Trump could do that anyway. Not without breaking world trade agreements.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed May 04, 2016 1:43 pm

Animavore wrote:
Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
If he does that then who is going to make his clothes?
Americans? I mean, if he does "that" (bring manufacturing back to the US) then "that" would be brought back to the US....
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 04, 2016 1:45 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Forty Two wrote: Folks are against American manufacturing going overseas to cheap, substandard working-conditions, environments, right? We don't want Carrier and Boeing to go to Mexico and China to take advantage of Mexican and Chinese shit working conditions and 10 cents a day wages,right? We wish Apple made their devices here in the States and employed American workers at $20 to $40 an hour, right? Well, Drumpf is on your side, and is promising to take concrete action to change the conditions such that it is not attractive any longer to do that.
If he does that then who is going to make his clothes?
Americans? I mean, if he does "that" (bring manufacturing back to the US) then "that" would be brought back to the US....
Doesn't explain why he isn't already doing it. He profits from the foreign labour he's criticising.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed May 04, 2016 1:47 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Trump is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
Well, in a way it is. Because if you make Mexico improve it's working conditions and pay high wages, then you make manufacturing there more expensive. As that happens, the incentive to move there goes down.

So, the intent may be, from the "fair trade" hippies, to help the poor in Mexico and China, and Trump's intent may be to help the "poor" here in the US by bringing/keeping jobs here for them -- that doesn't make the economic effects different.

What makes you doubt Trump giving a fuck about restoring American manufacturing? It's been the cornerstone of his campaign. He sees American business in the US, employing American citizens and legal residents, as good for the United States. What's doubtful about that?
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed May 04, 2016 1:48 pm

The north American free trade agreement, we only have to give 6 months notice we're quitting it.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed May 04, 2016 1:49 pm

Animavore wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Drumpf is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
I doubt Trump could do that anyway. Not without breaking world trade agreements.
Trade agreements aren't broken by being renegotiated, or by countries exiting them. No country is forever bound to a treaty. Countries are bound until they withdraw.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 04, 2016 1:50 pm

Forty Two wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:That bit from 42 doesn't make sense anyway. He reckons Trump is for fair trade. Fair trade isn't about restoring American manufacturing. I doubt trump gives much of a fuck about either. But it's pretty much impossible to tell at this point.
Well, in a way it is. Because if you make Mexico improve it's working conditions and pay high wages, then you make manufacturing there more expensive. As that happens, the incentive to move there goes down.

So, the intent may be, from the "fair trade" hippies, to help the poor in Mexico and China, and Trump's intent may be to help the "poor" here in the US by bringing/keeping jobs here for them -- that doesn't make the economic effects different.

What makes you doubt Trump giving a fuck about restoring American manufacturing? It's been the cornerstone of his campaign. He sees American business in the US, employing American citizens and legal residents, as good for the United States. What's doubtful about that?
Because he's a liar.
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 04, 2016 1:51 pm

Forty Two wrote: What's doubtful about that?
The fact that he sends jobs for his own businesses abroad.
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