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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:20 pm

It's called free-market economics. It's supposed to be a good thing.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Cunt » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:24 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:20 pm
It's called free-market economics. It's supposed to be a good thing.
of course it is, I wouldn't try to stop them selling their bad food. I would, however, support an effort to 'sell' better foods. With that in mind, I might dress as a banana and hand out fresh fruit at our next local race.

Maybe dress as two bananas...
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It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:33 pm
Joe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 pm

I guess the number that I'd be interested in is what percentage of online users are affected here. 3,300 seems awfully small.
How much protection do you think is appropriate, to shield you from harmful ideas?

Also, who will be deciding which ideas you need to be protected from?

Or is this 'protection' something you are ok with only when it is 'protecting' someone else?
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally, can you?

That's because you can't argue with the numbers. 3000 out of 14,100,000 Twitter users in the UK is a really small amount for all the crying I see.

And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."

I think Brian is right, Breitbart is pushing the OUTRAGE button to get clicks from cucks. I guess they have to make money some way. :bored:
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Hermit » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:37 am

Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am
And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."
More importantly is the slight of hand employed by the article in The Times as well as Breitbart. To repeat. They claim per Times headline is "Police arresting nine people a day in fight against web trolls". This is not what the data show. The data include all arrests made under the Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003. Telephones are part of the public electronic communications network. The published data make no distinction between the various electronic communications so used.

This means that even if we knew how many arrests led to successful prosecutions, we could not determine how many of them were arrested for harassing ex-partners, or breaking AVO conditions and how many ran foul of Section 127 via public statements on the internet. Your guess is as good as mine, but we can be certain that the number for the latter is way below nine per day.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:19 am

Hermit wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:37 am
Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am
And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."
More importantly is the slight of hand employed by the article in The Times as well as Breitbart. To repeat. They claim per Times headline is "Police arresting nine people a day in fight against web trolls". This is not what the data show. The data include all arrests made under the Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003. Telephones are part of the public electronic communications network. The published data make no distinction between the various electronic communications so used.

This means that even if we knew how many arrests led to successful prosecutions, we could not determine how many of them were arrested for harassing ex-partners, or breaking AVO conditions and how many ran foul of Section 127 via public statements on the internet. Your guess is as good as mine, but we can be certain that the number for the latter is way below nine per day.
Agreed, but I feel my point is also important. The increase in arrests is a blip in a infinitesimal portion of the speech happening online in the UK. I believe it's important to keep our problems in perspective.

I guess I'm just used to Breitbart's dishonesty to the point I take it for granted. It's like with Trump. I don't get upset, or even pay attention to what he says or tweets. After over 10,000 documented lies, I just assume he's lying to begin with.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Cunt » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:07 am

Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:33 pm
Joe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 pm

I guess the number that I'd be interested in is what percentage of online users are affected here. 3,300 seems awfully small.
How much protection do you think is appropriate, to shield you from harmful ideas?

Also, who will be deciding which ideas you need to be protected from?

Or is this 'protection' something you are ok with only when it is 'protecting' someone else?
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally, can you?

That's because you can't argue with the numbers. 3000 out of 14,100,000 Twitter users in the UK is a really small amount for all the crying I see.

And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."

I think Brian is right, Breitbart is pushing the OUTRAGE button to get clicks from cucks. I guess they have to make money some way. :bored:
I noticed you avoided my question, with customary bravery.

Your courage is only surpassed by your thoughtfulness.
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Joe wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:22 pm
he doesn't communicate

The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

Update: I've been offered one!
rainbow wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:23 pm
It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
Strong ideas don't require censorship to survive. Weak ideas cannot survive without it.

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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:53 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:07 am
Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:33 pm
Joe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 pm

I guess the number that I'd be interested in is what percentage of online users are affected here. 3,300 seems awfully small.
How much protection do you think is appropriate, to shield you from harmful ideas?

Also, who will be deciding which ideas you need to be protected from?

Or is this 'protection' something you are ok with only when it is 'protecting' someone else?
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally, can you?

That's because you can't argue with the numbers. 3000 out of 14,100,000 Twitter users in the UK is a really small amount for all the crying I see.

And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."

I think Brian is right, Breitbart is pushing the OUTRAGE button to get clicks from cucks. I guess they have to make money some way. :bored:
I noticed you avoided my question, with customary bravery.

Your courage is only surpassed by your thoughtfulness.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Cunt » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:24 pm

Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:53 pm
:airwank:
That's about the most sensible thing you have suggested yet, in the history of this forum.

You must have been learning to read recently. Congrats, Joe! Good job!
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Joe wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:22 pm
he doesn't communicate

The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

Update: I've been offered one!
rainbow wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:23 pm
It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
Strong ideas don't require censorship to survive. Weak ideas cannot survive without it.

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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:46 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:24 pm
Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:53 pm
:airwank:
That's about the most sensible thing you have suggested yet, in the history of this forum.

You must have been learning to read recently. Congrats, Joe! Good job!
I'm glad I found something you can handle. Stop before you go blind.

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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Hermit » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:24 am

Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:07 am
Your courage is only surpassed by your thoughtfulness.
Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:19 pm
I have suspected you of being a professional politician.
Cunt wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:17 pm
Is this you being stupid? Or lying?
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:01 pm
Objective reality must be uncomfortable for you though...
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:41 pm
It is the amount of courage I expected you to have, around your 'ideas'.
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:18 pm
Is it problematic that none of you have the courage to make jokes about sensitive subjects anymore?



Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:27 pm
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by JimC » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:01 am

:tup:
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:50 am

Hermit wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:24 am
Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:07 am
Your courage is only surpassed by your thoughtfulness.
Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:19 pm
I have suspected you of being a professional politician.
Cunt wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:17 pm
Is this you being stupid? Or lying?
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:01 pm
Objective reality must be uncomfortable for you though...
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:41 pm
It is the amount of courage I expected you to have, around your 'ideas'.
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:18 pm
Is it problematic that none of you have the courage to make jokes about sensitive subjects anymore?



Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:27 pm
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally.
You noticed that too! :tup:
Joe wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:15 am
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:33 pm
Joe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 pm

I guess the number that I'd be interested in is what percentage of online users are affected here. 3,300 seems awfully small.
How much protection do you think is appropriate, to shield you from harmful ideas?

Also, who will be deciding which ideas you need to be protected from?

Or is this 'protection' something you are ok with only when it is 'protecting' someone else?
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally, can you?

That's because you can't argue with the numbers. 3000 out of 14,100,000 Twitter users in the UK is a really small amount for all the crying I see.

And, as the article Hermit linked to said, only "1,696 people were charged and 1,399 convicted."

I think Brian is right, Breitbart is pushing the OUTRAGE button to get clicks from cucks. I guess they have to make money some way. :bored:
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by laklak » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:53 am

:D "Clicks from cucks"
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Hermit » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:37 am

Joe wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:50 am
Hermit wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:24 am
Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:07 am
Your courage is only surpassed by your thoughtfulness.
Cunt wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:19 pm
I have suspected you of being a professional politician.
Cunt wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:17 pm
Is this you being stupid? Or lying?
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:01 pm
Objective reality must be uncomfortable for you though...
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:41 pm
It is the amount of courage I expected you to have, around your 'ideas'.
Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:18 pm
Is it problematic that none of you have the courage to make jokes about sensitive subjects anymore?



Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:27 pm
You just can't help yourself, focusing on me personally.
You noticed that too! :tup:
It's one irony, probably noticed by everyone who reads along, except for our member from Yellowknife himself. I only searched through the posts he made in the past four days. There are hundreds more examples among his 7300+ contributions. I'm using "contributions" in the loose sense here.

Another irony is the number of times he accuses us of reading only from sources that agree with our views while just about all his links point to the usual right wing sites, Breitbart, Crowder etc ad nauseam.

Not that there's anything wrong with getting personal or linking to sources the views of which you agree with, but objecting to others doing either while indulging in those habits oneself reeks of hypocrisy. Our member from Yellowknife draws my mind to the politicians and evangelists who condemn sexual promiscuity, homosexuality and the use of recreational drugs while praising the institution of marriage and the sanctity of foetal lives, then get caught having an affair and suggesting the mistress have an abortion, or getting caught having sex with a boyfriend and smoking some meth.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Joe » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:24 am

Hermit wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:37 am
It's one irony, probably noticed by everyone who reads along, except for our member from Yellowknife himself. I only searched through the posts he made in the past four days. There are hundreds more examples among his 7300+ contributions. I'm using "contributions" in the loose sense here.

Another irony is the number of times he accuses us of reading only from sources that agree with our views while just about all his links point to the usual right wing sites, Breitbart, Crowder etc ad nauseam.

Not that there's anything wrong with getting personal or linking to sources the views of which you agree with, but objecting to others doing either while indulging in those habits oneself reeks of hypocrisy. Our member from Yellowknife draws my mind to the politicians and evangelists who condemn sexual promiscuity, homosexuality and the use of recreational drugs while praising the institution of marriage and the sanctity of foetal lives, then get caught having an affair and suggesting the mistress have an abortion, or getting caught having sex with a boyfriend and smoking some meth.
He doesn't seem very self aware. After a few months of seeing his "contributions," I quit taking him seriously.
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