pErvinalia wrote:
Oh, by the way, impressive collection of personal attacks there. For someone who claims they have a problem with posts that personally attack others, you sure make a lot of posts that personally attack others...
All anyone needs to do is click on the links and see the garbage from you I'm responding to, and it'll be obvious why I'm saying you have a reputation for meanspiritedness. Yes, I don't like personal attacks, but that's much of what this forum gets from you. A constant stream of vitriol, personal attacks, insults and namecalling.
pErvinalia wrote:
I also did not use the word "uncivil" except to say that the only ones who were being uncivil were persons other than Cunt. And, that's accurate. However, I did not constantly complain about that. Another lie on your part.
The point you are trying so hard to avoid is that you are a tone policeman who gets upset if people post in a tone that you don't like (i.e. uncivilly and/or mean), IN ADDITION to posts that arguably break the rules.
So, I'm right, but you think I'm wrong about a different issue. O.k., let's look at the other issue. You say that I'm avoiding the allegation that I'm a "tone policeman" who gets upset if it's a tone I don't like. That's bull, because tone is not my concern, but rather your habit of breaking the rules by personally attacking people. And, you do it in threads that you want to squelch or silence, because you don't like the topic. I'm not concerned with tone beyond that,nor will you find examples of me bothering much about that. The examples you gave showed me pointing out your reputation as a meanspirited asshole, always in response to more of your personal attacks on me.
pErvinalia wrote:
Also, I was quite clear in my post where I wrote -
You quoted the first part of the sentence, without noting the exception, and then declared that your misrepresentation of my argument was "absolute bullshit." You then explain your basis for that, saying that I demonstrably complain about people being uncivil and mean. Personal attacks, namecalling and insulting people are uncivil and mean. That's what I've complained about, and that's what is against the rules.
So you are going to equivocate and equate "uncivil and mean" with breaking the rules. Wow. I didn't think even you'd be that brash. You do realise there's a bunch of quotes up there showing this to be a lie?
So, I have been quite clear that when I note that your personal attacks, namecalling and insults are against the rules, I certainly acknowledge that they are ALSO uncivil and mean. They are. However, it's you that have attempted to miscast my argument into something suggesting that I'm crying like a snowflake about people being "mean" to me, when in reality, as is abundantly clear, I have been pointing out that you and some others are violating the rules when you personally attack others, rather than address their arguments, and that is not merely a tone or manner of replying to an argument.
Nup, that's actually you shifting the goal posts. You never equated them before now, when you find that even you can't wiggle out of the clear demonstrable evidence that you have a problem with people posting in a mean and uncivil fashion (despite lying a while ago by saying that you didn't have a problem with it).
This is absurd beyond belief. You are unable, apparently, to understand how all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs. Fuck off, man, you're not this stupid, and your half-baked attempt to manufacture some controversy here is ridiculous.
Taking it from the top, the problem I have is with you and some others personally attacking Cunt for creating a thread that you don't like because you think he's motivated by bigotry. So you think you can go ahead and be "shitty right back at him" for his crime of posting a "shitty" thread topic. The reality is that he is well within the rules to post a "shitty" topic, even one that is controversial, sexist, or otherwise shitty, and it's fair game for discussion. Personally attacking him, calling him names and insulting him is against the rules, and you and others are wrong for doing it. Yes, doing it is ALSO mean and uncivil, but that is not the same thing as me objecting to all things mean and uncivil. All personal attacks are mean, but not all mean things are personal attacks.
Now fuck the fuck off.
And you did falsely claim that Cunt presented a strawman, when he did not, and you did falsely represent my comment by posting only half a sentence and ignoring the second half. You lied, multiple times, and you are guilty of repeated personal attacks, insults and namecalling - which are all mean things, yes -- and you even admit to doing such things intentionally, as you have, among other things, bragged about the "abuse" you like heap on other people.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
