Re: Metaphysics as an Error

[AshtonBlack]

Well it's quite moot about the bear pit . The general consensus seems to be that it's a bad idea, that could lead to more drama out of the pit.

Splitting the derail would, possibly be a better resolution.

[devogue]

I think anyone who talks about philosophy should be banned for life.

[devogue]

But that's just me.

[FedUpWithFaith]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

So, live and learn. I'd suggest when there is a derail of this type and there is a mix of the irrelevant and the relevant, that you leave the mixed posts be and simply move and/or copy the derail to another thread. If necessary, warn those who did the derail not to continue the derail discussion in the original thread and confine their ongoing discussions of the derail matter to the new thread. If they refuse then I'd kick their ass.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I think anyone who talks about philosophy should be banned for life.

That's very... philosophical of you, Dev...


BANNED!

[SpeedOfSound]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

So, live and learn. I'd suggest when there is a derail of this type and there is a mix of the irrelevant and the relevant, that you leave the mixed posts be and simply move and/or copy the derail to another thread. If necessary, warn those who did the derail not to continue the derail discussion in the original thread and confine their ongoing discussions of the derail matter to the new thread. If they refuse then I'd kick their ass.

I totally understand. I'll be all content when I get my two chew toys back.

[Surendra Darathy]

Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.

There's no suspension in effect. Note who started this thread.

The exile is self-imposed, and CdSG has trudged off, back to the ice and high mountains. I hope that by teasing him a little about it, here, I can induce him to return. Self-imposed exile never suited me. It always feels like there's just a little too much Elba room.


For me, philosophical arguments are just good, clean mean fun.

[charlou]

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

He most definitely is.

[AshtonBlack]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Man, that took some balls. Nice one FBM!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

He most definitely is.

Still a , however.

[charlou]

Well it's quite moot about the bear pit . The general consensus seems to be that it's a bad idea, that could lead to more drama out of the pit.

Ayep, the people have spoken.

[charlou]

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

He most definitely is.

Still a , however.

He most definitely is.

[FBM]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Man, that took some balls. Nice one FBM!

That year as a monk taught me how to sling bullshit like a master.















JUST KIDDING!!!

That was a serious post!!

[Little Idiot]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.

So, live and learn. I'd suggest when there is a derail of this type and there is a mix of the irrelevant and the relevant, that you leave the mixed posts be and simply move and/or copy the derail to another thread. If necessary, warn those who did the derail not to continue the derail discussion in the original thread and confine their ongoing discussions of the derail matter to the new thread. If they refuse then I'd kick their ass.

I agree with Fedup; That takes some balls to be frank like that, doubly so if there is potential for others to put blame on you for the situation being escalated till a poster quits the forum.

But to be fair FBM had warned people in the thread several times. Mai had added her voice too.

I brought things to a head when I reported the post, and I did so simply because he refused to let the personal attacks drop into history.

And history is what it is.

[charlou]

While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).

In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.

Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.

Man, that took some balls. Nice one FBM!

That year as a monk taught me how to sling bullshit like a master.















JUST KIDDING!!!

That was a serious post!!

I'm so disillusioned