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Surendra Darathy
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by Surendra Darathy » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:05 am
FBM wrote:FBM wrote:Free will...
Seems that it would only be possible to have it if you were able to choose your thoughts before you had them.
I wasn't being flippant when I wrote the above.
I'm not interested in convincing anyone else or being convinced. I don't regard the thrust of the free will debate to be "thought control". People learn to concentrate so they can study this or that subject more efficiently, without having their mind wander off to some other topic. It is some desire that takes the mind away from what you are trying to study.
Desiring not to desire is still a desire. It's not the same as choosing not to desire. We do not, in fact, choose what we desire. We get to this point in every one of these discussions.
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by FBM » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:37 am
Surendra Darathy wrote:FBM wrote:FBM wrote:Free will...
Seems that it would only be possible to have it if you were able to choose your thoughts before you had them.
I wasn't being flippant when I wrote the above.
I'm not interested in convincing anyone else or being convinced. I don't regard the thrust of the free will debate to be "thought control". People learn to concentrate so they can study this or that subject more efficiently, without having their mind wander off to some other topic. It is some desire that takes the mind away from what you are trying to study.
Desiring not to desire is still a desire. It's not the same as choosing not to desire. We do not, in fact, choose what we desire. We get to this point in every one of these discussions.
I agree with everything you said.
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
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