Race, Ethnicity Intelligence, and Genetics

[Rum]

It seems to me that you are trying to force a socio/political issue into a purely scientific/empirical frame. There is nothing stopping you doing that if you are so inclined, however I would suggest that the context of the issue is broader and that the outcome of such an investigation is pretty worthless in terms of practical value. As I have said a couple of times - suppose you prove something pretty conclusively along these lines; what then?

I am not suggesting that the exercise cannot be done. It probably can but is has no social utility - the reverse in all likelihood.

I'm not trying to "force" anything. I'm simply trying to persuade people to honestly answer a basic question of belief without overthinking, second-guessing motive, or feeling guilty that their answer may seem to conflict with their politics or other ideological means by how we tend to define ourselves. You seem to fear that polls like this themselves given to supposedly rational freethinkers like us (rather than redneck racists where I would have expected a different form of response) will have some corrupting result and that it must be evaded.

You didn't address my other questions or analogies (e.g., to believing in String Theory) directly with argument for me to conclude otherwise yet. if you haven't already, I hope you will answer my post to you in the racism thread, it directly addresses what seems to be the wider implications of your posts above.

I will look at the other thread. As to this one - well my real and honest answer is a genuine don't know, based on lack of knowledge and lack of a reliable objective yardstick. I am not fudging it.

[FedUpWithFaith]

I believe you Rum. I'll look forward to your response in the other thread - it comes before my last post to Charlou.