Does porn exploit women and is it abusive and misogynistic?

[Daedalus]

Is gay male porn abusive and misandric?

I think it's just a degrading thing for anyone involved, and not particularly misogynistic or misandric.

[Audley Strange]

I've noticed a lot more rough stuff over the years. So, are people being pressured into rough stuff by producers and/or the marketplace or do more women like it rough than we once thought?

I once heard a woman on another radio program say that she didn't like porn because it seemed women didn't have as much to offer any more. If a man can be more satisfied by porn now that there's an endless variety and availability, does that mean that women have less sexual power over men? If so, could that be part of the reason some women disapprove of it?

I missed this post, you ask a great fucking question too.

Some of the "rough stuff" as far as I am aware there are female run studios that have all female staff (except male whores) produce BDSM and other fetish content. There are clearly lots of people that have various "kinks" no matter what gender or sexuality, some of them engage in that and some of them are just sleazy exploitative fuckers.

As for disapproval, I'd imagine there are many reasons for such. As for "women having less sexual power over men" does that mean porn is the new burkha? If you can't be modest go full spit roast genital torture bukkake?

Seems to me a strange position but not an entirely implausible one. I'd mention Eyes Wide Shut in this regard, but I've bored you all enough with my Kubrick ravings.

[Daedalus]

I've noticed a lot more rough stuff over the years. So, are people being pressured into rough stuff by producers and/or the marketplace or do more women like it rough than we once thought?

I once heard a woman on another radio program say that she didn't like porn because it seemed women didn't have as much to offer any more. If a man can be more satisfied by porn now that there's an endless variety and availability, does that mean that women have less sexual power over men? If so, could that be part of the reason some women disapprove of it?

I missed this post, you ask a great fucking question too.

Some of the "rough stuff" as far as I am aware there are female run studios that have all female staff (except male whores) produce BDSM and other fetish content. There are clearly lots of people that have various "kinks" no matter what gender or sexuality, some of them engage in that and some of them are just sleazy exploitative fuckers.

As for disapproval, I'd imagine there are many reasons for such. As for "women having less sexual power over men" does that mean porn is the new burkha? If you can't be modest go full spit roast genital torture bukkake?

Seems to me a strange position but not an entirely implausible one. I'd mention Eyes Wide Shut in this regard, but I've bored you all enough with my Kubrick ravings.

Related: Is an all-female studio producing lesbian porn misogynistic?

The whole idea of this question doesn't really stand up to much in the way of rephrasing the question; it requires that we think only of a single kind of porn.

[Audley Strange]

Related: Is an all-female studio producing lesbian porn misogynistic?

The whole idea of this question doesn't really stand up to much in the way of rephrasing the question; it requires that we think only of a single kind of porn.

I see no reason why it couldn't be however, yes, your last part is exactly right, it's like asking are chemicals dangerous.

[Tero]

Does porn exploit women ?
YES

Does porn exploit women and is it abusive and misogynistic?
I don't know. I don't know if these woman are able to do anything else.

[En_Route]

it does not take a huge leap of the imagination to envisage some of the kinds of the peole who are engaged in the production of pornography, maybe particularly of the rougher variety, nor the kind of vulnerable people who could easily find themselves groomed and trapped intto a hidous lifestyle. How frequent such inevitable instances would be, I have no idea.

[MrFungus420]

I have to say that I have enjoyed my occasional visits to a couple of 'special' sites less and less of late as this notion has developed in my mind. Yesterday on Radio 4 there was a discussion about it and I found myself agreeing pretty consistently with a fairly radical left wing feminist who viewed the whole industry as exploitative and abusive towards women.

Have you asked the actresses?

I am led not by just by ideology here but my own increasing discomfort in watching it at all (not exactly a frequent thing in any case). One can argue that the women who get involved make a lot of money and I imagine a few do, but for many it may be a case of needs must.

So?

How is that different from any other job? You either do it because you want to or because you have to.

[Jason]

Porn actresses make mucho dinero. Porn actors (men), not so much. If anything it's exploiting men.

[Audley Strange]

Porn actresses make mucho dinero. Porn actors (men), not so much. If anything it's exploiting men.

Yeah, but they don't tend to get paid that much per flick, it's just that the women in the biz tend to make a shitload of movies. I read somewhere that it can be as little as $2500 per shoot but I'd bet there's women who get paid a lot less unless its amateur camera funtime.

[Jason]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

[Daedalus]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

So... between a teacher's salary, and a decent income to get fucked in every way possible and risk contracting something... all while facing the social consequences?

Yeah, not an argument that sways me. This is not like an NFL player shortening their functional life-span or fragging their brain for 10's of millions.

[Hermit]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

Gushy orgasms? Almost all the ones purported to be such that I have watched were quite obviously faked. If you can provide me with links to real orgasms, or even convincingly acted ones, in films, please send me the links to them.

[Seth]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

So... between a teacher's salary, and a decent income to get fucked in every way possible and risk contracting something... all while facing the social consequences?

i believe being a professional porn star in the US these days is probably the safest way to have sex there is. They are all regularly tested and have to be able to prove it before being allowed to work. That's safer than going home with the cute college student from the pub, who may well have Chlamidia, clap or crabs.

Yeah, not an argument that sways me. This is not like an NFL player shortening their functional life-span or fragging their brain for 10's of millions.

If I could make 400K a year by letting people look at my baggy ass as I ram my cock into some girl I'd do it in a heartbeat...for a couple of years, bank the money and then quit.

There's a titty bar in Boulder that has some of the finest poontang you've ever seen because it draws co-eds from the University of Colorado who can make $700 a night to help finance their education. They do it for a year or two then they quit and go into a Master's program with the proceeds.

Selling one's sexual favors or sexual image should NEVER be a crime. It's the only think that some women have to survive with, and they should be allowed to do so without harassment if that's what they need to do. At least they are not becoming dependent-class leeches.

It's men who are at a disadvantage when it comes to marketing their body to feed themselves. Usually their choice is to get shot at by other frustrated males.

[Daedalus]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

So... between a teacher's salary, and a decent income to get fucked in every way possible and risk contracting something... all while facing the social consequences?

i believe being a professional porn star in the US these days is probably the safest way to have sex there is. They are all regularly tested and have to be able to prove it before being allowed to work. That's safer than going home with the cute college student from the pub, who may well have Chlamidia, clap or crabs.

Yeah, not an argument that sways me. This is not like an NFL player shortening their functional life-span or fragging their brain for 10's of millions.

If I could make 400K a year by letting people look at my baggy ass as I ram my cock into some girl I'd do it in a heartbeat...for a couple of years, bank the money and then quit.

There's a titty bar in Boulder that has some of the finest poontang you've ever seen because it draws co-eds from the University of Colorado who can make $700 a night to help finance their education. They do it for a year or two then they quit and go into a Master's program with the proceeds.

Selling one's sexual favors or sexual image should NEVER be a crime. It's the only think that some women have to survive with, and they should be allowed to do so without harassment if that's what they need to do. At least they are not becoming dependent-class leeches.

It's men who are at a disadvantage when it comes to marketing their body to feed themselves. Usually their choice is to get shot at by other frustrated males.

Hmmm... starting with a laughable statement and moving on to an irrelevant point nobody made about criminality.

[Jason]

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Porn actresses, according to that article, earn between $50,000 and $100,000 a year (many earn upwards of $400,000 per year). A handsome wage to get fucked by a professional and have their gushiest orgasms ever filmed.

So... between a teacher's salary, and a decent income to get fucked in every way possible and risk contracting something... all while facing the social consequences?

Yeah, not an argument that sways me. This is not like an NFL player shortening their functional life-span or fragging their brain for 10's of millions.

You're starting from several false premises - you're assuming that they don't enjoy their work (based on what?), you're suggesting that STDs are an occupational hazard in the porn industry (they are not. In fact, the risk is far higher just having casual sex like the majority of the 20-40 singles in all of the western world), and you're presenting a suggested social stigma as a valid point.

So.. put neutrally, a respectable middle-class income, a job you really must enjoy, and you're getting off with less thrisk. Win, win, win.

Not a job for everyone, granted, but it's just another job.