a question for tyrannical

[Animavore]

Are people on this forum so myopic that they think it matters either way if there is evidence that white people are more intelligent or more anything than other races. What on earth would people want to prove this for!?

Obvious, so that they can justify feeling that other races are inferior. There are all sorts of difference between genders, 'races' - if that word actually has any real meaning - and between tall and short people, clever people and dumb people. So fucking what?

If you want issues to divide yourself from the rest of humanity go live in a hundred and one places where people look down on their neighbours because they believe in a different version of 'god'. It is just as ridiculous.

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Yeah, this is the question I ask of all these types when I come across it. Why are they so keen to prove that there is such a thing as race? There might be genuine reasons, like alleged scientific integrity. But usually it's nothing of the sort. The only reasonable conclusion one can make is that the people who are so focussed on race are looking to legitimise their pre-existing prejudices.

Funny how the people who claim the superiority of one race/group/whatthefuckever always seem to be the ugliest, fattest, dumbest, violent, low-life, incestuous members of that particular group.

FIFY.

[charlou]

I'm not so sure about that, Warren .. If enough people filled NYFB or something similar/equivalent (which I do (and I'm a kinda patchwork pinky peachish with freckles person ) , sometimes with further rationale for why I think the question is irrelevant, if I can be arsed) where they think appropriate on their forms ... people who compile the forms might eventually get the message. Even questions about my gender, marital status (WTF), where I went to school, etc ... those have fuck all to do with how much tax I should have paid that year, or the enrolment of my child in school.

Your marital status and the specifics of your children do matter for taxation purposes.

The bit about the enrolment of my children in school was kinda tacked on and ambiguous .. I was referring to school enrolment forms which ask irrelevant, intrusive questions.

[charlou]

Are people on this forum so myopic that they think it matters either way if there is evidence that white people are more intelligent or more anything than other races. What on earth would people want to prove this for!?

Obvious, so that they can justify feeling that other races are inferior. There are all sorts of difference between genders, 'races' - if that word actually has any real meaning - and between tall and short people, clever people and dumb people. So fucking what?

If you want issues to divide yourself from the rest of humanity go live in a hundred and one places where people look down on their neighbours because they believe in a different version of 'god'. It is just as ridiculous.

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Yeah, this is the question I ask of all these types when I come across it. Why are they so keen to prove that there is such a thing as race? There might be genuine reasons, like alleged scientific integrity. But usually it's nothing of the sort. The only reasonable conclusion one can make is that the people who are so focussed on race are looking to legitimise their pre-existing prejudices.

Funny how the people who claim the superiority of one race/group/whatthefuckever always seem to be a member of that particular group.

whoa up now ... myopic? why not just ask what my interest in this is?

I see no validity, relevance or purpose in the divisive 'race' thing, but I am interested in genetics and neurology .. and if and how genetics and associated neurology affects how people fare in society. I don't think it's a question of value laden notions of superiority or inferiority, but more a pragmatic look at how differently peoples may have evolved to survive in the world, and how that may affect their ability to adapt to extreme cultural change.

It's purely a nature v nurture thing for me ... I've always leaned heavily on the side of nurture .. ie culture, environment .. and I haven't seen convincing evidence otherwise.

From there, my interest becomes a more personal ideology, I guess .. and lies in how to improve the nurture environment, how to give people the best chance to live a healthy life in a modern world.

[Bella Fortuna]

That wasn't about you at all - I was thinking about various times out in the world, media, or what-have-you when I've seen people claiming the superiority of some group - being white, say, and that person is always a member of that group.

[charlou]

ayep, I get you.

I quoted yours among the others to provoke a clarification. I suspect Rum doesn't think my interest myopic either ,, but I'm not sure ...

[Animavore]

Oh I actually did mean you personally.

[charlou]

I'm not claiming superiority .. far the fuck from it ... , so ... ?

[Animavore]

Jus' kiddin', like.

[charlou]

To clarify the above statement .. I'm able to get along in the world I've been raised in and become used to. I probably couldn't survive without all the props available to me .. and there are many .. so many it's scary to think about how propped up I am .. how vulnerable I'll be when all the props collapse.

How about you guys. How do you feel about technological advances and imperialist ideology when it comes to the most basic knowledge of how to survive on planet Earth.

[charlou]

Jus' kiddin', like.

I wondered ... heh. you got me.

[Rum]

ayep, I get you.

I quoted yours among the others to provoke a clarification. I suspect Rum doesn't think my interest myopic either ,, but I'm not sure ...

I didn't. I assumed a more academic and objective interest knowing you as I do. Others however clearly wish to reinforce their sense of themselves as superior - or other human beings with different skin tone and similar subtle differences as inferior.

Even if those differences were detectable - and they probably are given enough exploration, what would people like that propose - social policy based on it? Eugenics? or simply a sense of self satisfaction?

My position is simply that we have so much more in common than not that we should make the most of it.

[Robert_S]

Are people on this forum so myopic that they think it matters either way if there is evidence that white people are more intelligent or more anything than other races. What on earth would people want to prove this for!?

Obvious, so that they can justify feeling that other races are inferior. There are all sorts of difference between genders, 'races' - if that word actually has any real meaning - and between tall and short people, clever people and dumb people. So fucking what?

If you want issues to divide yourself from the rest of humanity go live in a hundred and one places where people look down on their neighbours because they believe in a different version of 'god'. It is just as ridiculous.

,

Yeah, this is the question I ask of all these types when I come across it. Why are they so keen to prove that there is such a thing as race? There might be genuine reasons, like alleged scientific integrity. But usually it's nothing of the sort. The only reasonable conclusion one can make is that the people who are so focussed on race are looking to legitimise their pre-existing prejudices.

Funny how the people who claim the superiority of one race/group/whatthefuckever always seem to be a member of that particular group.

Kinda like like people who claim to know what God wants.

Or people who think they know where evolution "wants" or "ought" to go for that matter. It's usually "I want more selection pressure for the traits I like".

[Pappa]

How about you guys. How do you feel about technological advances and imperialist ideology when it comes to the most basic knowledge of how to survive on planet Earth.

I think I'd do fine without it all. I'd miss the intertubes, as they form a major part of my social interaction and they are an ever-so-ever-ready source of information that feed my desire for knowing stuff all the time.

But other than that, I think I'd do a lot better than most at surviving and thriving in a non-technological world. In many ways I'd welcome it with open arms.

I'm not sure where the "Imperialist ideology" bit fits in. Can you explain further?

[Tyrannical]

Animavore seems to want to troll this topic also, undoubtedly because he has nothing rational to add to the discussion. What a pity.

[Kristie]

Animavore seems to want to troll this topic also, undoubtedly because he has nothing rational to add to the discussion. What a pity.

Pretty sure that's not trolling. Looks suspiciously like joking, to me!