Genocide to Save Modernity. Can it be Justified?

[Pappa]

Justify the desire to save modernity.

"When the aliens do come, everything we once thought was cool will then make us ashamed."

[JimC]

Defending the various fruits of the enlightenment, violently if that is what it takes, is a very different kettle of fish to genocide...

[cronus]

Defending the various fruits of the enlightenment, violently if that is what it takes, is a very different kettle of fish to genocide...

Carthage must be destroyed, again. It is the only way to be sure the degenerative religious memes don't return to haunt humanity in the future. A future when orders of power far greater than currently available means only a globally rationalist perspective will guarantee species survival...for any length of time. The only path to a better 'morrow! or 'morrow at all even!?

[Svartalf]

Defending the various fruits of the enlightenment, violently if that is what it takes, is a very different kettle of fish to genocide...

It can amount to the same if the populations that pose danger to our civilisation are to be eradicated to ensure the danger won't be back.

[Azathoth]

Stick them on an island somewhere with some bronze and some goats. No need for genocide

[JimC]

I know Scrumple is meaning muslims here. Disposing of violent fanatics who want to kill us doesn't worry me in the slightest, but that isn't genocide.

Genocide is holding babies by the legs and bashing out their brains by swinging them against a wall, usually after raping their mothers.

Got the guts for that, Scrumple?

[cronus]

I know Scrumple is meaning muslims here. Disposing of violent fanatics who want to kill us doesn't worry me in the slightest, but that isn't genocide.

Genocide is holding babies by the legs and bashing out their brains by swinging them against a wall, usually after raping their mothers.

Got the guts for that, Scrumple?

There is no need for such intimacy in the nuclear and atomic age. With various diseases going around and the religious not wearing protection and be'n prolific sexual hypocrites I guess the Rationalia Way isn't going to be necessary, or healthy?

[Audley Strange]

To me it's q

[Audley Strange]

My philosophy is quite simple. Those who call for things like extermination or war should be the first in the gas chamber or front line. The enemies of humanity are those who malign any subset of it, even the fucking crazies like themselves.

Also. To get rid of religion takes more than offing simps.

[Mysturji]

The backward ideas are the "enemy" - not the people holding them.
Attack the ideas - "Memecide" if you will.
Otherwise the collateral damage will fuck up the whole gubbins for everyone.
If they'd rather die trying to kill people who attack those ideas, then those violent arsebiscuits can be terminated in self defence with a clear conscience. Give everyone a chance to learn. Some will take it, gladly.

[cronus]

It is them or us. Religions are just like ideologies, only on steroids, and the only way to confront them is through violent opposition. These ideas cannot be stopped by reason and history is not linear a progression, and slow revolutions eventually allow for genocidal counter-coups with the sloths of liberal progress often the first against the wall. Suicide is a brave position...though. Who doesn't want to die for some high ideal when they are a kid? or grownup kid.

[Svartalf]

My philosophy is quite simple. Those who call for things like extermination or war should be the first in the gas chamber or front line. The enemies of humanity are those who malign any subset of it, even the fucking crazies like themselves.

Also. To get rid of religion takes more than offing simps.

you're next to me in line buster, by your own philosophy

[Svartalf]

The backward ideas are the "enemy" - not the people holding them.
Attack the ideas - "Memecide" if you will.
Otherwise the collateral damage will fuck up the whole gubbins for everyone.
If they'd rather die trying to kill people who attack those ideas, then those violent arsebiscuits can be terminated in self defence with a clear conscience. Give everyone a chance to learn. Some will take it, gladly.

excellent but impractical... we've been trying to acculturate muslims for over a century, and all we seem to have managed is to entrench them in their own backward ways. Which in turn has made them extra aggressive against us and all those of our enlightened ways that don't coincide with their bias. Which in turn gives rise to extra incentive to be proactive in defending ourselves...

So unless we have a master plan that will actually open their eyes and convert them to our ways rather than destroy the world as they feel comfortable with and turn them into suicidal terrorists, your idea doesn't seem practical.

[cronus]

We are rapidly approaching the first time in human history when full ideas and their carriers can be eradicated totally. To not use the power of information and the mechanisms of violence to eradicate those who oppose us is to give them the advantage. Like the stock pile of munitions before WWI there will come a time when some vague event ignites the drama and then weakness will only be a option for the dead. We live presently within a invisible socio-catastrophic tinderbox of historic proportions. Some refuse to see this. A day will dawn...however.

[Jason]

Genocide is holding babies by the legs and bashing out their brains by swinging them against a wall, usually after raping their mothers.

I'm assuming we're to kill the mothers after raping them? It just seems rather silly otherwise.