First World War Beyond Living Memory So Let It Rest?

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Re: First World War Beyond Living Memory So Let It Rest?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:46 am

PordFrefect wrote:
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PordFrefect wrote:Pearl Harbour I'd discount as a battle, but the rest count I would think.
You're right. Pearl Harbor was a hockey game disguised as a battle.
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I think you may have watched the movie too many times? It's not a battle if one side is doing 90% or more of the bombing.. hell there wasn't even any real engagement of the Japanese forces.
Tell the guys who died there it wasn't a battle. In person.
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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:50 am

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Call it whatever you like if it makes you feel better. It won't make it so.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:15 am

PordFrefect wrote::roll:

Call it whatever you like if it makes you feel better. It won't make it so.
You know, I'm a professional historian, Masters from Purdue. I've never heard anybody who knew their ass from a hole in the ground about combat call that anything other than a battle.
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Post by Ian » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:18 am

A battle is a battle even when one side is ambushed and suffers a lopsided defeat.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:20 am

Ian wrote:A battle is a battle even when one side is ambushed and suffers a lopsided defeat.
Somebody's just talking out of their weight class, that's all.
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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:30 am

Did I offend your sensibilities 'Zilla? I'm sorry.

What I was saying was that relative to the battles of WWI, there were few that could even come close to comparing in WWII. That's where it started. It was about relative scale. I suppose I stepped on your toes by daring to talk relativistically in your area of expertise. :roll:

I'll be sure to do you the same courtesy when you step on mine. :cheers:

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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:31 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
PordFrefect wrote::roll:

Call it whatever you like if it makes you feel better. It won't make it so.
You know, I'm a professional historian, Masters from Purdue. I've never heard anybody who knew their ass from a hole in the ground about combat call that anything other than a battle.
Define 'battle' for me then.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:32 am

PordFrefect wrote:Did I offend your sensibilities 'Zilla? I'm sorry.

What I was saying was that relative to the battles of WWI, there were few that could even come close to comparing in WWII. That's where it started. It was about relative scale. I suppose I stepped on your toes by daring to talk relativistically in your area of expertise. :roll:

I'll be sure to do you the same courtesy when you step on mine. :cheers:
I think you've insulted a lot of good men. That's why I think you don't know shit about battles. In combat it's very often just you and maybe a few friends. The big picture only matters later.
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PordFrefect wrote:Define 'battle' for me then.
You were the one saying what wasn't a battle, so you must have the defo in your hand.
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Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:33 am

PordFrefect wrote:Pearl Harbour I'd discount as a battle...
Ian wrote:A battle is a battle even when one side is ambushed and suffers a lopsided defeat.
End of that argument.
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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:34 am

For a professional historian you're quite emotive. Where's the academic detachment?

I insulted no one. That's your interpretation and not my problem.

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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:35 am

Hermit wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:Pearl Harbour I'd discount as a battle...
Ian wrote:A battle is a battle even when one side is ambushed and suffers a lopsided defeat.
End of that argument.
Tautology is tautologous. :roll:

Honestly.. wtf guys?

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:35 am

PordFrefect wrote:For a professional historian you're quite emotive. Where's the academic detachment?

I insulted no one. That's your interpretation and not my problem.
I have more fuck you if you want it.
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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:37 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:Define 'battle' for me then.
You were the one saying what wasn't a battle, so you must have the defo in your hand.
Slow down GI Joe. I explained that I was making the point of relative scale between WWI and WWII.

Right now I'm under the impression from you and Ian that any engagement qualifies as a battle.

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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:39 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:For a professional historian you're quite emotive. Where's the academic detachment?

I insulted no one. That's your interpretation and not my problem.
I have more fuck you if you want it.
Whatever you like. I'd rather remain on amicable terms with you since I think you're not a bad guy.

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