Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

[rainbow]

Too specialized for me to easily look up, but those charts do not take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger.

This table is not Scientific.
It is Racist Hogwash.


From a Neo-Nazi website:
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

I'm shocked that you'd actually think you could get away with posting such drivel, and not be caught out.

[Svartalf]

But admit it looks spiffy and convincing...

[rainbow]

But admit it looks spiffy and convincing...

Just like real science.

By the way Raychoudhury and Nei, are real scientists, but that table with a comparison to chimps doesn't appear in any of their published works.

Pure unadulterated intellectual dishonesty. Even racists should know better.

[Jason]

Spiffy and convincing racism. Problematic.

[Svartalf]

Well, it's racism as I like it, all sciency and systematized... shows the guy has some brains to try and classify his own shit.

[Galaxian]

Too specialized for me to easily look up, but those charts do not take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger.

Do genetic distance charts of other animals take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger??? No?. Then what's the problem?

This table is not Scientific.
It is Racist Hogwash.
From a Neo-Nazi website:
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

I'm shocked that you'd actually think you could get away with posting such drivel, and not be caught out.

On the contrary; I'm shocked that you can't accept the obvious & impartial finding of 2 of the foremost researchers in this field & reject their table & similar ones as "Racist Hogwash". Indeed, YOU caught YOURSELF out!

[rainbow]

Too specialized for me to easily look up, but those charts do not take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger.

Do genetic distance charts of other animals take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger??? No?. Then what's the problem?

This table is not Scientific.
It is Racist Hogwash.
From a Neo-Nazi website:
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

I'm shocked that you'd actually think you could get away with posting such drivel, and not be caught out.

On the contrary; I'm shocked that you can't accept the obvious & impartial finding of 2 of the foremost researchers in this field & reject their table & similar ones as "Racist Hogwash". Indeed, YOU caught YOURSELF out!

It isn't their table.
Do you deny that the website you obtained this table from, is a Neo-Nazi site?
Do you concur with the opinions shown on racialcompact.com?

[Galaxian]

But admit it looks spiffy and convincing...

Just like real science.

By the way Raychoudhury and Nei, are real scientists, but that table with a comparison to chimps doesn't appear in any of their published works.

Pure unadulterated intellectual dishonesty. Even racists should know better.

Here you go YOUR own "unadulterated intellectual dishonesty".

Do you have a problem understanding simple lists & charts? It appears that you do. Because the above list is merely a simplification, WITHOUT CHANGE, of the original Raychoudhury and Nei one. You couldn't see that? So you drag in a dead cat to scare away any onlookers. Infact they mention chimps in their original paper: http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/10/5/927.full.pdf as well as in other publications.

So you throw the above purulent side-swing at Richard McCulloch, cherry picking his articles to suit your prejudices. Here's the relevant extract:
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data ... 1289844260
"What are the percentages of genetic differences between the human races? Perhaps the best study to date on this subject is that of Masatoshi Nei and Arun K. Roychoudhury (1993) [Note #5]. Nei and Roychoudhury use a different methodology than that of L.L. Cavalli-Sforza et al. (1988) which in their opinion "introduced unreasonable branching patterns into phylogenetic trees," a reference to Cavalli-Sforza's grouping of Northeast Asians in the same cluster with Caucasians rather than with Southern Chinese and Southeast Asians. The following percentages of genetic differences between human populations and the phylogenetic tree below are from their study. The chimpanzee percentage is added for context and a standard of comparison."


Note that there are 3 columns, to make reading easier & give equivalency to the lists. In one of the columns Nigerians are at the top. Also note that chimpanzees are at the bottom of all 3 columns, & that their distance of 1.6% is identical for all 3 columns. Note that the percentages are NOT in terms of distance away vs distance towards. They are ONLY in terms of distance AWAY from the item at the beginning of the list. In other words, as already clear to anyone who is literate & unbiased, if we take just the 3rd column, it is NOT to be interpreted as distance between a Nigerian & a Chimp is 1.6%, but distance between an Austroloid & a Chimp = 1.6 - 0.176 = 1.424 , is that how you interpreted it? That is plain wrong, since in other columns all of the above change places, except that the Chimp stays at a distance of 1.6% from ALL the human subspecies.

But I doubt to the highest degree that you will EVER change your mind about the evidence presented, because it's not PC!

Don't you feel ashamed or embarrassed in misguiding the youth, & spreading ignorance instead of knowledge?

[Galaxian]

Too specialized for me to easily look up, but those charts do not take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger.

Do genetic distance charts of other animals take into account either gene expression or the effects of having multiple copies of genes which make the differences even bigger??? No?. Then what's the problem?

This table is not Scientific.
It is Racist Hogwash.
From a Neo-Nazi website:
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

I'm shocked that you'd actually think you could get away with posting such drivel, and not be caught out.

On the contrary; I'm shocked that you can't accept the obvious & impartial finding of 2 of the foremost researchers in this field & reject their table & similar ones as "Racist Hogwash". Indeed, YOU caught YOURSELF out!

It isn't their table.
Do you deny that the website you obtained this table from, is a Neo-Nazi site?
Do you concur with the opinions shown on racialcompact.com?

It isn't their table ONLY in the sense that it has been organized for ease of reading. In just a few minutes I can re-organize it, so that each of the 26 races/subspecies of their original table is tabulated in its own column, with the nominated race at the top (not to be confused with "best") of the column, & the rest in a following order of genetic distance. THAT is what McCulloch has done. THAT is the ONLY thing that he's done, but for 3 races, rather than all 26...which would make it unwieldy. And he's thrown in the poor chimps at the bottom of ALL the tables at 1.6% distance from ALL humans.

And for his troubles in trying to make life a bit easier for you & other readers, you lambast him as a racist. You may as well lambast Richard Dawkins as a racist for believing that there are different subspecies of dolphins or wolves or seagulls!

Now, as for Neo-Nazi sites, you have NO idea what the fuck you're talking about. The most extreme Neo-Nazi sites are the ones at the Department of Homeland Security, or Fox News. It is they who strive, day in day out, to model the world into the gulag that their masters command them to.

As for concurring. With EVERY site or video I link to; I agree with, & reject some of it. But ALWAYS on evidence

[rainbow]

But I doubt to the highest degree that you will EVER change your mind about the evidence presented, because it's not PC!

Don't you feel ashamed or embarrassed in misguiding the youth, & spreading ignorance instead of knowledge?

Show me the paper by Raychoudhury and Nei where that table was presented.

Then I'd be convinced that it was theirs, not some racial claptrap perverting figures from genuine research.

I think you should be embarrassed for spreading racist propaganda.

[rainbow]

Now, as for Neo-Nazi sites, you have NO idea what the fuck you're talking about. The most extreme Neo-Nazi sites are the ones at the Department of Homeland Security, or Fox News. It is they who strive, day in day out, to model the world into the gulag that their masters command them to.

As for concurring. With EVERY site or video I link to; I agree with, & reject some of it. But ALWAYS on evidence

Then how about answering my question abpout whether you agree with the sentiments of that openly racist website?

Couldn't you come up with any evidence from a proper scientific journal?

[Svartalf]

Actually, if it were racist propaganda, it would show the Australoid and African populations as having less difference fromm the chimp than "more evolved" races.

[rainbow]

It isn't their table ONLY in the sense that it has been organized for ease of reading.

Dumbed down to cater for their not so bright, racist audience?

The cake is yours.

[rainbow]

Actually, if it were racist propaganda, it would show the Australoid and African populations as having less difference fromm the chimp than "more evolved" races.

Have a look at the website: http://www.racialcompact.com/

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A call for Racial Preservation, Racial Independence, Racial Rights and Racial Good Will


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I think they might be a tad racist.

[Svartalf]

I was only talking about the table
Sorry for the site but it made me puke.